vision2020
Re: Low hanging fruit
Mike,
I wasn't even going to address this post, but it's
just too irresistable to pass up. Is there a
connection between people who have lost their
jobs, due to layoffs, and welfare? I'm unaware of
this. There are unemployment benefits for some who
have lost their jobs and on a completely unrelated
topic there is welfare for such situations like single
parent households where, for instance, a deadbeat dad
has taken off and a single Mom is left with kids to
raise and no wage earner around to pay the bills.
Yep, and I know you're response to this is something
along the lines of "Tough luck kid, it's too bad that
your Mommy made a bad choice in selecting a deadbeat
Daddy as your father, but Joe Taxpayer doesn't want
to foot the bill for your upbringing, so get used
to living on the streets, and in poverty, forever.
It's your problem, not one that needs to be solved by
a
few pennies off of the hard earned dollars that are
confiscated from me in the form of taxes."
Regarding your Enron/bin Laden rant, who's logic are
you pointing to? There is no logic path to follow in
this entirely irrational paragraph, so I'm unable to
give any type of response to this.
Regarding Bill Clinton, I'm not sure of who he has
slandered. Nor I am aware of any slander lawsuits
filed against this, in your words, "slanderizing
schmuck of a president". Further, thanking God that
Clinton's administration (in which he presided over
the longest peacetime economic expansion in the
history of America) is in the past, is puzzling. I
take it that you prefer the present situation of war,
recession, and deficit spending over peace and
prosperity? Or is it something much simpler such as
you just can't accept having a Democrat in the White
House?
And as for faith...well, I think that's a personal
choice and I'm happy to live in America where
everyone is free to practice whatever religion they
want (providing they are not hurting anyone else
while practicing their religion) or they can practice
no religion at all.
Cheers,
-Scott
--- Mike Rush <mike.rush@cableaz.com> wrote:
> Yes, folks paid into the idea that working ( being a
> self reliant part of
> the economy ) is a good thing. It is a good thing,
> and it does need to be
> preserved. However, just because the economy has
> gone into recession, do
> you really believe that all of those who did and
> have since lost thier jobs
> should immediately think of becoming welfare kings
> and queens again? Sounds
> to me like they never bought into anything relating
> to self reliance(except
> the notion that a job was a necessary short term
> inconvienence until the
> economy stumbled).
>
> As for the Enron employees, the brass is being
> considered for criminal
> prosecution. If they are, prosecute, convict, and
> punish them. Learn from
> what they did and attempt to make it hard to happen
> again. By your logic,
> (corporate america is evil because Enron brass are
> crooks), we should
> consider evil, say, all arabic nationals evil since
> Bin Laden is a crazed
> lunatic, or all african americans are lunatics since
> Tyson is a warped,
> delusional, masochist).
>
> Do you really thing that the Enron brass would not
> have gotten away with the
> charade for so long under the Dem's. Oh wait, this
> has been going on for
> years and, if I can remember way back when, wasn't
> that slanderizing,
> schmuck of a President, Bill Clinton in office in
> the recent past? (...and
> thank God it is the past.)
>
> As for placing faith, God is the place, not anything
> or anyone on or of
> this earth.
>
> Mike Rush
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Cronin" <jaycron@turbonet.com>
> To: ""Vision 2020 (E-mail)" <Vision 2020"
> <vision2020@moscow.com>; "Mike
> Rush" <mike.rush@cableaz.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 11:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Postpone taxcuts.
>
>
> > Federal assistance? Mmm. I hardly consider
> preserving what folks paid
> into
> > a call to arms. It is the right thing to do. Many
> folks working towards
> > self reliance have been playing by the new welfare
> reform rules, took the
> > training you paid for and worked those low paying
> jobs with pride. They
> > are now beginning to lose those jobs. But hey,
> you're right...vote
> > instead for those good conservatives and place all
> your faith in corporate
> > America . How about those Enron
> employees....wondering if they are
> feeling
> > the love yet?
> >
> > John
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: Mike Rush <mike.rush@cableaz.com>
> > > To: WMSteed@aol.com; sdredge@yahoo.com;
> vision2020@moscow.com
> > > Subject: Re: Postpone taxcuts.
> > > Date: Sunday, February 03, 2002 8:25 PM
> > >
> > > When the left talks about helping those who have
> lost their job, they
> > mean
> > > federal assistance. Anything they can do to
> make people more dependant
> > on
> > > the government, they view as an asset. After
> all, federal assistance
> > > dollars is leverage for votes. "Don't vote for
> those evil
> conservatives,
> > > they will take away the assistance you have
> grown accustom to. We will
> > > preserve it for you." This is their call to
> arms.......
> > >
> > > Mike Rush
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <WMSteed@aol.com>
> > > To: <sdredge@yahoo.com>; <vision2020@moscow.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 4:29 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Postpone taxcuts.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 2/1/02 7:15:32 PM,
> sdredge@yahoo.com writes:
> > > >
> > > > << I can see your individual point about how
> lower
> > > > taxes are allowing you to pay less tax. Have
> you
> > > > considered the millions of people who have
> been
> > > > layed off in the past several months? They're
> > > > also paying lower taxes because their income
> has
> > > > been severely reduced. Do you think this type
> of
> > > > tax reduction for so many people is a good
> thing? >>
> > > >
> > > > And exactly how is having my taxes raised
> going to put someone back in
> > > their
> > > > job? Or are we talking funding welfare?
> > > >
> > > > Walter Steed
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
>
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