RE: THE REAL STORY - TOPLESS CAR WASH -OR- Gone too far vs. Too far gone?

["Alan Partridge" <apartridge@turbonet.com>]

Alright Stambler, your remarks don't exactly represent a piece of
shining inspiration, do they? How do you expect to stoke the fires of
rage in this sub-community if you you fail at simple name-calling? Let
us pick apart your previous post, shall we? First of all, the
enumeration of your points seems to indicate that you cannot expound
upon your claims with any sort of information, even falsehoods. 

Secondly, there is some negativity clearly expressed toward the
Centralia/Chehalis region, something that seems to come from absolutely
nowhere. Please Stambler, throw in some drivel about a shaky link
between a Crowley sect and a ring of baby-killings into the mix to make
the overall mood acerbic. At least that is more likely to stir the
heartstrings than "Most of these people lived at 225 N. Home Street,
behind Jack In The Box."

Thirdly, there is mention of a Christian outreach to 225 N. Home Street.
I can't tell you how many times Christian sects attempted to evangelize
on my time and even managed to lead me to pass some rather broad
judgements on the whole of Evangelical Christendom. Personally, I'm glad
most of even the most righteous believes that they are unworthy of any
kind of solace after death, which makes my own life even more worth
living.

On a positive note, referring to the link between the MPD and Moscow
drug trade; that particular blathering sparks some interest, but then
again we quickly find the failing of information, either true or false,
to back it up. How about insinuations that the drug users need to
supplement their rent by purchasing drugs from the Clift family? With
that comment, not only do you slander the MPD, but you also slander the
Clift family by mentioning a positive connection between the two legal
bodies. Since I see none of that, I am disappointed. Apparently the
lords of chaos need to take you aside and show you how to mend your
ways.
How are the rest of us on this list to feel? I expect messages like this
to be emotionally-charged powerhouses of negative inspiration, but I
find myself feeling rather empty. At least you could make comments and
assume that we believe you, as others on this list arrogantly believe
that most will believe them. It's too bad, though. You've left yourself
in the darkness, but at least you can now let the devils consume you.

Best regards,

Alan Partridge
-A non-representative of the BBC or its affiliates, at home or abroad

(All parties offended: please take note, all presented information,
substantiated or implied is hypothetical. I state here that I do not
know the Clift family or the MPD in any fashion, not even proven rumour.
Any claim made against me cannot not be substantiated by this message,
as it is an exposition of another individual's statements.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Stambler [mailto:stamblerdouglas@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:07 AM
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: THE REAL STORY - TOPLESS CAR WASH

Do you all want to know the REAL story behind the topless car wash? 
Here it is:
 
1) The women were raising money for drugs, not for rent.
 
2) Most of these people lived at 225 N. Home Street, behind Jack In The
Box.
 
3) Some of these people were about 19 years old, and from
Centralia/Chehallis.
 
4) Not one Christian did outreach to 225 N. Home Street while this was
going on.
 
5) 225 N. Home Street has been a popular DRUG DEN for over ten years;
people called ahead to the house for their drugs, and then would come to
Moscow to pick them up and use them here.
 
6) THE LANDLORDS OF THE HOUSE ARE THE CLIFT FAMILY: ONE OF THEM IS AN
EX-MPD OFFICER, THE OTHER IS CURRENTLY EMPLOYED BY THE MPD.  IN OTHER
WORDS, TWO MPD OFFICERS WERE COMPLICIT IN THE MOSCOW DRUG TRADE.
 
 
 
The MPD and Moscow are both the laughing stock of Idaho and the
Southwest: I have spoken with many people in person and via the internet
about this.  Moscow's business reputation has been tainted: Is Moscow
really the BOOB center of the USA?  That's what some people think.
 
Clean up your local police department, folks: You have white
supremacists and people doing illegal things.
 
And please, please, IGNORE Douglas Wilson, as it is his CONTEMPT FOR HIS
FATHER - Jim Wilson - that makes him irascible as any discontent and
hypocritical preacher I have ever met.
 
 
In Christ,
Douglas Stambler
Moscow



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