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RE: gifts and coercion



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Lucy Zoe asks why not hold parents responsible for the misdeeds of their children? I use my own family as an example to answer that question:
I and my wife are parents to special needs tykes. They are a handful, not only to ourselves, but to the society we live in as well. Not a week goes by that we aren't meeting with school officials, police officers or irrate neighbors because our children do the things damaged children do.
I suppose you could blame their messed-up mother who drank and drugged it up while carrying them. Or their biological father who fed them vodka in a bottle when they were yet infants. Or maybe we could lay the blame on the parents of their biological parents for not raising THEIR children properly. But these aren't people our children call parents, these are people our children have no recollection of existing. We are their parents, and we listen nearly every day to folks who point fingers and accuse us of being without parenting skills (even though we've raised 5 other - now grown - children of our own who brought us praise as super parents because they have achieved so much).
You have to ask yourself if we are truly the 'misguiding' parents we're constantly accused of because of the actions of our children? I don't believe so.
Don't misunderstand, I'm not trying to push off my responsibility in raising our boys. It's just that I, and apparently all the so-called child experts have no clue as how to 'train' damaged children to grow up overcoming their problems. I most certainly am offended when I'm told I am responsible for any naughty things they may do.
As for the young women who want to show their breasts in public because they're more stuck on women's liberation than on old-time moral beliefs: How could their parents be held responsible? Should their daddies come to Moscow and spank their butts?
I believe, if we could see their parents back when they raised them we wouldn't see abuse, neglect, misteaching, bad examples or anything else negative. Today, unfortunately young people are given free reign to do as they please. Parents are handcuffed by our society in that old-time methods of controlling children who are out-of-control are deemed "wrongful parenting".
If any of us good parents were the parents of these young women and raised them as we did the rest of our children, do we suppose they would NOT be doing the same things they do today? If you do think they would have turned out any differently under your parenting skills, you still have a lot to learn about parenting today.
 
-- from Bear Nisse
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Lucy Zoe [mailto:lucyzoe@moscow.com]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 12:41 PM
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: RE: gifts and coercion

When did parents stop being accountable for the actions of their children? At what age do they cease to be the result of a parent's production? Parents boldly proclaim affiliation when their offspring does something acceptable, but are quick to sever responsibilities when actions are questionable.
 
Why is it so reprehensible to say that a child's actions may be a direct result of a parent's lack of success in an area of parenting? We link parental behavior to physical abuse and alcoholism in offspring, so why not other behaviors? Our parents are our first teachers. We model their behavior and we learn. And then many people spend the rest of their lives fighting to erase learned behaviors and create new ones.
 
Somehow it's easier to say, "That's my son, he's a doctor, teacher, good father, writer, etc.," then it is to say, "That's my son, he's a convict, child molester, can't hold a job, abandoned his wife and children, etc."  We learn a multitude of things from our parents by just observing them. I would venture to say that most of what we learn is unspoken.
 
So again...why aren't fathers responsible for their daughters? When those women showed their breasts to earn money...where were their parents? Do you you really believe it doesn't matter? If what parents teach doesn't matter and their behavior is insignificant, then who is responsible for raising productive members of society?
 
More importantly, why all the outrage when a *father* speaks out and suggests that fathers should be *more* responsible for the actions of their children? I find it totally absurd that anyone would come unglued by such a suggestion. If not the parents...then who is teaching our children?
 
Lucy Zoe
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



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