RE: gifts and coercion

Sorry for the length, but I've now got a few serious questions I'm hoping someone will share their insights/thoughts/views on, and then I want to address something Mr. Wilson wrote.

First, if the government is so "bad" (which we've done a lot of reading about here), why is it you want to *expand* their powers by criminalizing breasts? You want to, among other things, opt out of taxes for public schools but give local law enforcement the right to stick their noses into my breasts. That makes no sense to me.

Second, why is it you support a law that preserves center cleavage, in all its glorious splendor? If breasts are never to be seen outside the marriage bed, presumably without a nursing child attached, then why support a law that allows a section of the female chest many, many men (and likely some women) find *highly* sexual and erotic? Surely you know there are entire sexual practices devoted to center cleavage while none exist (that I'm aware of) for side or bottom cleavage.

I find it extremely ironic and highly suggestive that you support a law that allows a part of the breasts many men, and Madison Avenue, have sexually objectified to obscene levels to still be legally shown.

Third, and finally, how is it you reconcile breastfeeding with this law? Do you honestly believe it's reasonable to spend years, decades in many cases, telling females that breasts are not to be seen and then expect them to put all that negative conditioning aside when they've got a child who needs feeding when hungry?

As a mother who breastfed, I can personally attest to the fact that you are *seriously* clueless if you honestly believe that. Comfort and relaxation is important for successful breastfeeding, and when women have been conditioned for years that there is something inappropriate about their breasts, we can't just put that out of our minds because *you* think we should. Heck, it's just been in the last decade in *many* parts of the country that women haven't been relegated to uncomfortable and unhygienic public restrooms to nourish our young!

But, perhaps that's what you really want? I hope not, but I am asking the question.

Mr. Wilson wrote:

"Behind every topless woman this last summer stood a contemptible father who had refused (for many years) to honor his daughter the way Scripture requires."

Huh? What exactly do you mean? And, where do the mothers fit in your above equation?

Now, I wasn't one of the topfree women this summer, but I suppose I could have been. Because, you see, my father *and* mother, who were real Christians (not just Sundays in church), taught me a lot.

They both taught me to appreciate that I was born in a democracy where I'd be protected by the Constitution no matter which flavor of religion, if any flavor at all, tended my soul. Both of my parents served the military and took seriously the rights granted us by the Constitution, even when they sometimes found the expression of some of those rights morally repugnant.

They also taught me that, since I've the privilege of living in a Constitutional democracy, it is my *responsibility* to stand up against injustice and unequal treatment where ever those enemies of democracy rear their ugly heads. It matters not whether those injustices and inequalities touch me directly, although they certainly do in the case of Moscow Ordinance 2002-13.

My father, *and* my mother, *empowered* me.

The way it looks to me, Mr. Wilson, you are trying to *force* your own flavor of religion, and all that encompasses, on this community to promote injustice and unequal treatment. You are certainly entitled to your opinions, even though I disagree with you. But, if what you want is a theocracy tailored after your own peculiar beliefs, I don't know what to tell you except that I hope you'll never see that in *this* community. The Constitution should protect us from that.

I'm not willing to sit back and do nothing when you are trying to force *this* community to accept your religious desire to restrict the rights, responsibilities, and freedoms of Moscow, ID citizens, male or female, and I believe I'm in the majority on that. And, I think you know I'm right, which is, I suspect, why you *don't* want Moscow Ordinance 2002-13 to go to a vote :-)

I find it appalling for you to sit in judgment of the fathers you referenced and slam their characters, and spiritual lives, when you know nothing about either with respect to those men. I'm going to turn the other cheek and assume you made such an outrageous statement for its shock value.

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