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RE: Beware, extreme feminism
This situations are totally unreal. No man has ever been arrested (or so
I assert until proof to the contrary can be shown) by just randomly
looking into a window and accidently getting an eye full. A man should be
arrested if he then begins to frequent the home of the woman he
unintentionally caught a full body glimpse of and harasses her. Is this
another defense for sexual misconduct and rape? "Well she was naked in
her window for everyone to see, she had to have wanted it."
No man has ever been arrested for the same situation the woman was in
earlier.
Do not try to discredit feminism with these mediocre extremely improbable
scenarios. If the "proverbial door swings both ways," which I don't deny
can't happen, historically this "door" has been slammed on the fingers,
limbs, and head of women in multiple efforts to disable them in every
social context. And men suffer these assaults on women as evidenced by
their strict socially imposed and enforced gender role. We have made it
degrading to be a woman, so any man who is "woman-like" is attacked in
every meaning of the word.
In Feminist Hope,
Daniel
On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Tom Hansen wrote:
> Greetings Visionaires -
>
> In certain circumstances society has taken a reverse sexist approach. To
> illustrate my point, consider the following scenarios.
>
> Scenario 1: A woman is inside her apartment changing her clothes. Her
> window has been left open (purely by accident). Outside, a man walks by and
> his attention is quickly (and for an extremely short period of time) drawn
> to the woman.
>
> Result: The man is arrested for being a "Peeping Tom".
>
> Scenario 2: A man is inside his apartment changing his clothes. His window
> has been left open (purely by accident). Outside, a woman walks by and her
> attention is quickly (and for an extremely short period of time) drawn to
> the man.
>
> Result: The man is arrested for being a indecent exposure.
>
>
> Just a note to let you know that this proverbial door swings both ways.
>
> Take care,
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Kronemann [mailto:kron4155@uidaho.edu]
> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 10:10 AM
> To: Earth Life
> Cc: vision2020@moscow.com
> Subject: Beware, extreme feminism
>
>
>
> Visionaries,
>
> A woman is equal (which doesn't mean the exact same) to a man. She has
> the right do exactly what a man has the right to do. Because some people
> are offended by that sight of breasts because of certain conotations our
> society has attached to the breast, specifically sexual conotations, does
> not negate that right. The objectification women as sexual objects is a
> kind of slavery in which they are shackled by blatant double standards.
>
> If we all had the same respect Garrett Clevenger seems to have for women,
> we could end a lot of the problems of the world. Our hypermasculine
> culture has polluted our minds, our earth, and our relationships. A
> feminization of the world is its way to its salvation. No wonder some of
> our greatest spiritual leaders had strong and powerful women as friends,
> wifes, mothers. One example, since this seems to be something a lot of
> people can relate too, is Christianity. A woman was choosen to bring the
> Messiah into the world, because of her unique capabilities. A woman was
> also the first to deliver the news of the resurrection. If there ever was
> biblical reason for feminism, that would be it.
>
> Women aren't the only one affected, but men as well. They have become
> weak. When presented with a woman of character, of strength, they often
> have no alternative but to strike at her. Even behavior between males is
> affected. Violence and homophobia of the direct results of this sexism
> and hyper-adhesion to the traditional gender roles. Being a girl is often
> used as an insult between young boys. And you hardly see the converse in
> girls.
>
> I implore the City Council, the Visionaries and the rest of the humanity
> to seriously look at how sexism and hypermasculinity is poisoning us.
>
> In Feminist Solidarity!
>
> Daniel
>
> "Pornography is the theory. Rape is the practice."
>
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