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Re: COLUMBINE AND GOD IN THE SCHOOLS?
Thank you for your assessment of my needs Mr. Cronin. There are those out
there who written me today to thank me for taking the position I did take.
If you found my statements to Mr. Coombs offensive then I can tell you that
much of what he said was offensive to myself and some others. I do admit
there has been more negative feedback than positive. Yours is negative feed
back but well taken.
His question was not a question but an indictment of religion is public
schools. His comments went beyond that he was attacking some values.that I
hold precious. Where were you --------living in Canada? Hey very sheik.
"What's up with that? Hey that makes you hip. Well the entire thing is we
have gotten completely off the thing of prayer in public schools.
"I found the point that God had been returned to the public schools because
students prayed during the Columbine massacre --
I found that a little tacky.
There has always been prayer in the schools, as the joke goes, before
exams. Coercing people into praying your prayer to your God in a public
school doesn't seem a great idea to me.
But I'll bet you're happy with the U.S. Congress -- rejecting the
appointment of someone as chaplain because he was a Jew. Apparently the
chaplain is always a Protestant."
Lets face it with this type of rhetoric Don Coombs is as big a jerk as I was
to answer him the way I did. Comments by him are above. Here are a group
of people mourning the loss of their children. Don't you think we could be
a little more sensitive to help them through their period of mourning? No!
according to Mr. Mouth. He found them to be "TACKY". Maybe I will check in
a anger management but maybe we could send Mr. Coombs sensitivity training
as a measure of self- improvement. His comments about Jews is strident
religious prejudice. Where does this fit into the discussion to make any
sense. Foolish, Foolish comments. With all due respect;
Wolfgang Schwartzenweintraub
From: "John Cronin" <jaycron@turbonet.com>
To: "Wolfgang Schwartzenweintraub" <wolfman@turbonet.com>; "Don Coombs"
<dcoombs@uidaho.edu>; "Cliff Fallon" <fallon@eecs.wsu.edu>
Cc: <vision2020@moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: COLUMBINE AND GOD IN THE SCHOOLS?
> Mr. Schwartzenweintraub,
>
> I am struggling here to see how Mr. Coombs offended you and the God you
> sincerely believe in by asking a simple question. What is your
> answer?....Whose God? Please help me understand why Mr. Coombs deserved
a
> personal threat and a juvenile- like insult around his manhood. What is
up
> with that? Good grief! Could you tell us specifically what role you played
> in defending our rights to free speech and how that is relevant to this
> discussion? Let's see..somebody needs anger management counseling....Mmmm.
>
> John Cronin
> ----------
> > From: Wolfgang Schwartzenweintraub <wolfman@turbonet.com>
> > To: Don Coombs <dcoombs@uidaho.edu>; Cliff Fallon <fallon@eecs.wsu.edu>
> > Cc: vision2020@moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: COLUMBINE AND GOD IN THE SCHOOLS?
> > Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 8:19 AM
> >
> > Coombs your entitled to your opinion that is what a lot of people in
this
> > world would say myself included. I do not agree with your attitude nor
> do I
> > respect your views or small talk about the Lord, God, Jesus Christ. If
> you
> > said those things to me in the middle of a wheat field and not on the
> > University of Idaho campus I would take you apart limb by limb. You
> aren't
> > man enough to back yourself up. It is little pucks like you that some
of
> us
> > defended many years ago in a far away place. We defended your right to
> make
> > us sick with your rhetoric. You have the right to say what you want
about
> > some of us and our Lord. But, don't flatter yourself to think you are
> clear
> > of me on this one. If prayer brings peace to some people why should you
> > care. What is your alternative Don? Would you have us slaughter a
sheep
> > and toss the blood all over the wall of Columbine high school in the
name
> of
> > Satan? Would you have every body explain things to you in terms only
you
> > appreciate. What the dickens does taxes have to do with all of this any
> > way. Are you one of those wheat farmer that live around here on the
> biggest
> > welfare program in existence. Are you tired of buying Cadillacs for
them
> > with subsidized money? What really has your shorts tied in a square
knot
> > Don? You seem like a candidate for management anger consoling. With all
> due
> > respect;
> >
> > Wolfgang M. Schwartzenweitraub
> >
> > ********************************************************
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Don Coombs" <dcoombs@uidaho.edu>
> > To: "Cliff Fallon" <fallon@eecs.wsu.edu>
> > Cc: <vision2020@moscow.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: COLUMBINE AND GOD IN THE SCHOOLS?
> >
> >
> > > Whose God? If you are open to having all the faiths represented
> (including
> > > some I myself consider weird but would never think of identifying
> > > here) then I guess I see no flaw in your argument--
> > >
> > > Unless you were thinking of not allowing atheist and agnostic point of
> > > views to be represented, even though atheists and agnostics pay taxes.
> > >
> > > I found the point that God had been returned to the public schools
> because
> > > students prayed during the Columbine massacre --
> > >
> > > I found that a little tacky.
> > >
> > > There has always been prayer in the schools, as the joke goes, before
> > > exams. Coercing people into praying your prayer to your God in a
public
> > > school doesn't seem a great idea to me.
> > >
> > > But I'll bet you're happy with the U.S. Congress -- rejecting the
> > > appointment of someone as chaplain because he was a Jew. Apparently
the
> > > chaplain is always a Protestant.
> > >
> > > Don H. Coombs
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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