Not THAT big a deal.

[Tim Lohrmann <timlohr@yahoo.com>]

Visionaries,
I agree that someone using off-color language, etc. is
unpleasant, but I don't think this is all that serious
an offense. Besides, the guy(PC)admitted his mistake
and apologized.

Everyone has the right to screw up from time to time.
Let's not make a federal case out of this. 
In the grand scheme of things, it's really not a big
deal.
      TL

--- Wayne H Beebe <whbeebe@turbonet.com> wrote:
>  As far as avoiding sanctions or vision 2020 police:
> 
> I believe that once when the person crosses the line
> of civility it is
> because that person is out of control.  The sole
> purpose of a time out is
> for the person to regain control and to allow all
> other parties time to
> refocus on issues rather than personalities. 
> Hopefully, once the person
> comes back on line everyone will have moved on from
> the mistake and the
> person will be welcomed back with open arms.
> 
> As far as eliminating a person from the list if s/he
> continues to cross the
> line is concerned, there are some people out there
> who will want to dominate
> the board even when they are being ignored--they are
> called Trolls.  They
> can ruin a board if not put in check right away.
> 
> Now I am not saying PC is a troll.  I am saying  he
> violated the ethics of
> the board and,as a consequence, should voluntarily
> cool it a while.  I am
> suggesting that he--or anyone else who crosses the
> line should, out of
> respect for this board, take a cooling off period.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Cronin" <jaycron@turbonet.com>
> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 11:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Crossing the line
> 
> 
> > I agree that demonstrating respect to all members
> is critically important,
> > however I am uncomfortable with a parental
> approach like time out or
> > censoring the content of the posts. I  enjoy the
> emotional responses to
> > this list but as Bill London has pointed out, we
> are all responsible to
> > avoid being petty and mean-spirited.  Those
> members who  repeatedly
> >  violate the shared values of Vision 2020 do so at
> the risk of losing the
> > respect of this virtual community.  As a natural
> consequence, they will
> > be ignored. What could be a better way than that
> to encourage civility?
> >
> > Mr. Cooper's apology seems genuine to me but
> everyone needs to decide that
> > for themselves. Let's try to  avoid sanctions or
> vision 2020 police.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > John
> >
> > ----------
> > From: Wayne H Beebe <whbeebe@turbonet.com>
> > To: Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com>
> > Subject: Crossing the line
> > Date: Saturday, January 22, 2000 9:54 AM
> >
> > The recent exchange between PC and Shahab caused
> me to recall just a few
> > months ago when someone was emailing trash to
> other members on this list.
> > While I am not accusing anyone of anything, I do
> think that we do need to
> > show everyone respect.  We may have different
> opinions, but we all have a
> > right to them.  Someone once said you can only
> begin to understand others
> > when you walk in their shoes.  For Shahab, his
> complaint is legitimate.
> > Others may not see it that way, but we do have to
> respect him.
> >
> > If anyone finds anyone else crossing the line,
> that person should be
> called
> > on it, and I think the person crossing the line
> should cool it for a given
> > amount of time, like a month.  He or she can still
> read what comes accross
> > the list, but should not be welcomed to respond to
> anything.  If such
> > behavior continues he or she should be removed
> from this list.
> >
> >
> 
> 
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