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Re: Crossing the line
- To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com>
- Subject: Re: Crossing the line
- From: "Wayne H Beebe" <whbeebe@turbonet.com>
- Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:27:45 -0800
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As far as avoiding sanctions or vision 2020 police:
I believe that once when the person crosses the line of civility it is
because that person is out of control. The sole purpose of a time out is
for the person to regain control and to allow all other parties time to
refocus on issues rather than personalities. Hopefully, once the person
comes back on line everyone will have moved on from the mistake and the
person will be welcomed back with open arms.
As far as eliminating a person from the list if s/he continues to cross the
line is concerned, there are some people out there who will want to dominate
the board even when they are being ignored--they are called Trolls. They
can ruin a board if not put in check right away.
Now I am not saying PC is a troll. I am saying he violated the ethics of
the board and,as a consequence, should voluntarily cool it a while. I am
suggesting that he--or anyone else who crosses the line should, out of
respect for this board, take a cooling off period.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Cronin" <jaycron@turbonet.com>
To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: Crossing the line
> I agree that demonstrating respect to all members is critically important,
> however I am uncomfortable with a parental approach like time out or
> censoring the content of the posts. I enjoy the emotional responses to
> this list but as Bill London has pointed out, we are all responsible to
> avoid being petty and mean-spirited. Those members who repeatedly
> violate the shared values of Vision 2020 do so at the risk of losing the
> respect of this virtual community. As a natural consequence, they will
> be ignored. What could be a better way than that to encourage civility?
>
> Mr. Cooper's apology seems genuine to me but everyone needs to decide that
> for themselves. Let's try to avoid sanctions or vision 2020 police.
>
> Thanks.
>
> John
>
> ----------
> From: Wayne H Beebe <whbeebe@turbonet.com>
> To: Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com>
> Subject: Crossing the line
> Date: Saturday, January 22, 2000 9:54 AM
>
> The recent exchange between PC and Shahab caused me to recall just a few
> months ago when someone was emailing trash to other members on this list.
> While I am not accusing anyone of anything, I do think that we do need to
> show everyone respect. We may have different opinions, but we all have a
> right to them. Someone once said you can only begin to understand others
> when you walk in their shoes. For Shahab, his complaint is legitimate.
> Others may not see it that way, but we do have to respect him.
>
> If anyone finds anyone else crossing the line, that person should be
called
> on it, and I think the person crossing the line should cool it for a given
> amount of time, like a month. He or she can still read what comes accross
> the list, but should not be welcomed to respond to anything. If such
> behavior continues he or she should be removed from this list.
>
>
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