Re: Gun Story-SUV villification-liberals stink.

["Travis Tonn" <vart@turbonet.com>]

There is a growing movement in this country, by liberals, to villify SUVs as
the next public enemy.  The typically flawed liberal reasoning goes like
this:  SUVs are bigger than normal cars so when they get into crashes with
smaller vehicles, their occupants don't get hurt as much.  So that is
unfair, we must outlaw SUVs so that everybody gets hurt at the same rate as
everybody else. SUVs are bad for the environment because of their poor gas
mileage.  They are also more macho looking and we liberals can't handle
anything that promotes the male libido.  Maleness is bad.  Also, SUVs cost
more and are more luxurious so they are typically owned by evil republican
capitalists who are macho, hate the environment and don't care about anyone
else's safety, we must ban SUVs.
    If you doubt this growing movement, just read the paper the next time
somebody gets in an accident with an SUV.  If a pedestrian gets hit by a
Ford Explorer, the headline or lead paragraph will include a statement
similar to; "Woman struck by SUV!"  or "Woman in critical condition after
encounter with SUV!".  I'm sick of liberal socialists in this country
telling us that if we smoke, we are insensitive, stupid and downright
morally wrong.  If I like to hunt and shoot, I am pure evil.  Not only do I
kill poor defensless creatures, but I also am some sort of a dangerous nut
who must be monitored by the government.  If I go to church and promote
moral values I am a right wing extremist(unless its some sort of hip
Hollywood nature-based religion) who wants to force my morals on everybody
else and blow up abortion clinics.  I'm tired of their name calling and
attempts to outlaw or overtax everything that I associate with my culture.
I grew up hunting and fishing and off-roading and shooting and going to
church.  That is my culture and the liberals in this country can't stand any
of it and are tireless in their efforts to either ban it, tax it, outlaw it
or make you look like a creep if you partake in it.  Conservatives  had
better wake up and get a hundred times more aggressive in their efforts to
preserve common sense and decency in this country.  Use the courts as a tool
to change things like the liberals do.  stop infighting and concentrate your
anger and frustration at liberals.  How often do you hear liberals trash
each other?  Not very.  Republicans make a sport out of it.  And finally,
Don't be ashamed to be a conservative!  Proclaim it loudly and often, get
those politically incorrect bumper stickers.  Don't be afraid to stick up
for common sense and morals.  After all, you are right!!!-----Original
Message-----
From: Robert C. Tindall <rtindall@fsr.com>
To: Wayne H Beebe <whbeebe@turbonet.com>
Cc: Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com>
Date: Monday, November 22, 1999 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Gun Story


>You've eloquently stated precisely what troubles me about this.  Driving is
>a privilege.  There are extensive laws and limitations on the manufacture
>and operation of motor vehicles.  There were over 41,000 traffic related
>deaths.
>
>So what do we do about this?  Do we pass more laws?  I see no national
>movement to further limit ownership of automobiles, and I suspect if those
>who do not own or operate an automobile tried to do so they would be
>pilloried by those who do not want their ability to drive to the mall
>further restricted.
>
>41,471 people killed, contless more injured to various degrees.  How much
>does that cost us in health care, lost productivity, and disrupted lives?
>Where is the effort to stem the tide of blood on our nation's streets?
>
>At 09:26 PM 11/19/99 -0800, Wayne H Beebe wrote:
>>Let's see, there are licensing laws.
>>There are auto registration laws
>>There are laws dealing with legal age to drive
>>There are laws governing speed
>>There are laws governing drinking and driving
>>There are laws requiring safety features on vehicles
>>There are laws that permit confiscation of a vehicle
>>There are laws that allow implied consent.
>>There are laws dealing with environmental issues.
>>There are laws requiring insurance.
>>There are laws that insure proper traffic flow.
>>
>>No they haven't prevented all deaths, but consider how much higher they
>>would be if we considered driving a right (as in the case of guns) rather
>>than a privilege.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Robert C. Tindall <rtindall@fsr.com>
>>To: Wayne H Beebe <whbeebe@turbonet.com>
>>Cc: Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com>
>>Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 4:49 PM
>>Subject: Re: Gun Story
>>
>>
>>According to the NHTSA there were 41,471 traffic fatalities in 1998.
>>
>>I wonder how many automotive control laws are pending to solve this crisis
>>in
>>our country.
>>
>>At 04:07 PM 11/19/99 -0800, Wayne H Beebe wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't know if any of you saw this story about gun violence. I thought
I
>>> would send it to you just in case.
>>> Note there were 39,000 deaths due to guns in the last year. A decrease,
>>yes,
>>> but look at the last comment at the end of the article
>>
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