Re: A Well Regulated militia

["Wayne H Beebe" <whbeebe@turbonet.com>]

Again, your argument is not with me.  If you think your rights have been
abridged, you do have legal recourse through the court system.  Maybe the
ACLU will take the case, after all they took the Aryan Nations case.
----- Original Message -----
From: <sec@moscow.com>
To: <Vision2020@moscow.com>; Wayne H Beebe <whbeebe@turbonet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: A Well Regulated militia


> > Which was forcibly put down by the militia that congress called up.  How
> > about John Brown, again put down. My point is the militia is to protect
> > the government, not overthrow it.  I know my history.
>
> uh huh, one of the factors was that the government was using
> Militias from other states to force the Pensyilvanians (SP) into line
> and pay the taxes, (forcing citizens to attack other citizens at the
> behest ofthe state) and some readings I have done question the
> legality of the Congress doing that (and if you ask me to cite them
> I'm gonna be in trouble because I can't remember which ones)
>
> > Also, about your denial of a permit to carry a conceiled weapon.  From
the
> > sounds of it, it was not so much that you are a resident alien, but that
> > you could not show a compelling reason to carry one.  However, if you
feel
> > that your rights were abridged, you have legal recourse through the
> > federal courts.
>
> ok, maybe I didn't make myself clear, (been known to happen) I
> wasn't ever allowed to get to the point of applying for a CCW, I was
> refused the permit (told it would never be issued) that allows a legal
> resident Alien of the United State to touch or own a firearm in
> Washington State. without the permit, even touching a firearm
> makes me a felon, I would have to get the permit to apply for the
> CCW.
>
> let me try this way.
>
> Citizen: Goes into County Sherrifs office, pays fees applys for
> CCW, is granted (or refused, Washington isin't a "right to carry
> state" that I know of), unless applicant has criminal record, no
> further action is taken against him.
>
> Legal Resident Alien: pays fees and applies in writing to the state
> government for Alien Firearm License, gets all the paperwork as
> best they can, waits up to 90 days, may be refused at any stage
> without reason, if not refused, now has legal right to touch a firearm
> in Washington state, or to put it another way, is now on the same
> legal level with a citizen. they may THEN apply for a CCW.
>
> if legal resident Alien doesn't live in Washington State, permit can
> not be issued. so said law abiding alien can still not touch a firearm
> without becoming a criminal.
>
> is this clearer?
>
> Stan
>