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Re: 1912 High School (Whitworth)Building
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- Subject: Re: 1912 High School (Whitworth)Building
- From: Robert Probasco <rcp@uidaho.edu>
- Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:52:39 -0700 (PDT)
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Thank you, Walter, for providing this balanced and objective analysis.
I, too, was troubled by the lack of authorship of the document.
I am even more disturbed by the creative accounting being used to
justify the initial expenditures.
I also agree with your speculation on why the project has not been
put to a vote: the project would suffer a crushing defeat. Do our elected
officials lack the courage to put this project on a ballot?
After I perused the slick half-inch thick booklet last week, I
concluded the basic plan was to gut the building back to a shell and
rebuild it from within. Perhaps this is someone's desired solution to a
problem (said problem has never been really defined, to my knowledge),
but I question whether it is the *best* solution.
Robert Probasco rcp@uidaho.edu
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999 WMSteed@aol.com wrote:
> Re: 1912 Moscow High School
> To: Mayor and City Council
> From: Walter M. Steed - 9/6/99
>
> Having attended the Monday, August 30 city council meeting almost by
> accident, I stayed because of the information provided to the public. For
> the first time the council heard the additional approximately $1 million cost
> of renovation, the $180,000 start up costs and $156,000 annual expense of
> operation. Apparently, at least four council persons were taken back enough
> to delay a decision for a week in order to receive additional citizen input.
> The following are my thoughts on the subject for your Tuesday, September 7
> council meeting:
>
> Most interestingly, nowhere in the Preliminary Design Report given to the
> council last Monday does anyone or any entity take ownership of the document
> and the information contained therein. Except for some presumably
> subcontracting architect and engineer letters and memorandums, there is no
> one person or firm who can be held accountable for its contents. While the
> drawings contained therein do have the Design West logo on them, the cost
> estimate has only "Whitworth Building Renovation 6/19/99."
>
> I notice the construction contingency contained in the cost estimate is only
> 7% . In my experience this is an extremely low construction contingency at
> this early stage, particularly for a project of this type. Renovation is a
> very open ended process as you never know what is behind the next wall you
> tear into. A larger, more realistic, contingency percentage of 15% would
> raise the total estimated cost another $225,982 for a total project
> construction cost of $4,185,620. (6% of this amount for start up costs is
> $251,137.)
>
> Another construction cost question is the expense for removal of hazardous
> materials. Is there no asbestos or other material in the building which
> requires special, expensive handling or has it already been removed or is
> there a cost item in the budget which I overlooked?
>
> Granted, the plan is to raise all construction dollars from donations, so why
> should the cost matter? Apparently for the proponents a million dollars
> extra wasn't enough to even cause a pause. Realistically, unless a second
> unnamed benefactor or the one you have tosses in a lot more, you could have a
> problem finishing the project. I find it hard to believe there are two or
> more million dollars in disposable income available in Moscow for a building
> that is so limited in its uses; meeting rooms, senior center, science center,
> arts center and city offices.
>
> It seems the item which did give some council members pause was the $156,000
> annual cost of operation. If the existing community room brings in $8,000,
> almost 20 times this amount will be needed to cover the new building's cost;
> ignoring my higher figure above. The Preliminary Design Report Overview,
> again not credited for authorship, states the seniors will continue to lease
> the kitchen and great room two days per week. This seems to say they cannot
> be counted on for additional income despite the tripling of dedicated space.
> That leaves the sciences group (who are these people and is there an entity
> which can sign a $50,000 annual lease for one-third of the building?) and the
> city to pick up the rest.
>
> Let's overlook for a moment previous commitments that "no tax dollars will be
> spent on the Whitworth Building." Since the city budget is restricted to
> only $70,000 to $100,000 per year in tax increases, it would appear that
> either all future tax increases will be dedicated to the building or some
> existing budget items will have to be foregone for the next 100 years to
> operate the building. Are you sure you wish to restrict future councils in
> this way. It sure would make annual city budgeting easy.
>
> I don't know how to stop this juggernaut which, I believe, is dearly wanted
> at any cost by one hundred or so people in Moscow. I believe many more, the
> unheard from majority, either don't care, question its value or don't take
> the local paper to know what is going on.
>
> Although there have been meetings about its use, to my memory there has not
> been a public hearing about whether or not to pursue this project. Do
> proponents fear a bond issue vote by the citizens of Moscow who can only then
> speak to the real community commitment for this project.
>
> Such a vote seems the only way to properly raise operating money now that it
> is obvious tax dollars are going to have to be used. Thank you.
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