Re: What is success?!

[Robert Anton-Erik <anton933@uidaho.edu>]

Now, to provide the counter-argument...

If, as you assert, the moral is True and has been "proven true throughout
world history," then certainly you can provide a story that is
historically factual, without having to resort to a fabricated story to
make your moral point.

Or, as previously remarked by someone (i dunno who), what good is the
moral if you have to resort to a lie to make the point?

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Shahab Mesbah wrote:

> well... i am sorry to have caused such a debate! my intention was to make a
> point about doing good things just for the privilege of having the chance to
> do them. those of you who understood, appreciated it and that makes it worth
> while.
> 
> i too appreciate the facts on the matter but as previously stated the moral
> of the story stands and has been proven true throughout world history. the
> message is True... if i had changed the names to Tom, Dick, Harry, and Simon
> the story might have been factual but would not have made the impact.
> 
> the question here is are you going to look for truth or Truth?! there are
> many true statements that contain no Truth. i agree that ideally you want
> both but i insist that Truth is more important than truth!!
> 
> now, i do not want to get into a battle here but why do you think that there
> are 24000 different ways of believing in a man that told all of us to be
> civilized and not kill one another? the different sects of Christianity are
> a prime example of nit-picking the facts until you miss the Truth before
> you.
> 
> your brother in arms,
> 
> shahab...
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Hoffmann <escape@alt-escape.com>
> To: <WMSteed@aol.com>; <melyndah@mail.wsu.edu>; <vision2020@moscow.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 11:53 AM
> Subject: Re: What is success?!
> 
> 
> > At 02:21 PM 8/30/99 EDT, WMSteed@aol.com wrote:
> > >Thank you for another item for my "Things I really did not need to know"
> > >file.  The first story was much better.  I would like to believe the
> moral
> > >remains the same.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I'm with Melynda Huskey on this one.  "Things I really did not need to
> > know" include smarmy but incorrect stories concerning historical figures.
> > My mailbox fills with this kind of junk from well-meaning people who think
> > that I will be inspired by such historical novellas.  The flip side of
> this
> > is that I sometimes receive bogus and inflammatory warnings about computer
> > viruses that don't exist.  The Internet makes the proliferation of such
> > trash so easy, that people often invent their own hoaxes--of the inspiring
> > or panicking variety--just for the thrill of seeing their own fantasies
> > circle the globe.  I am happy when people inform me of disinformation, as
> > this decreases the chance that I will repeat it to others.
> >
> > The accuracy and quality of the information we receive through electronic
> > media should be an issue of concern to Vision 2020 subscribers, and to all
> > people involved with technology today.
> >
> >
> > Bob Hoffmann                         229 East C St., Suite B
> > Alt-Escape Adventures                Moscow, ID  83843  USA
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> >                                      Fax: 1-800-683-3799
> >
> 

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Robert Anton-Erik 
anton933@uidaho.edu 
http://www.ets.uidaho.edu/rob/

"The medium is not the message,
 the message is the message."
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