vision2020
Re: critical mass bike ride (fwd)
Hi, I was wondering if you can stope sending me your ....... emails..
thank you.
>From: "Nick Sanyal" <nsanyal@uidaho.edu>
>To: "Debbie Gray" <dgray@uidaho.edu>, <vision2020@moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: critical mass bike ride (fwd)
>Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:45:28 -0800
>
>Right on, Debbie. I too am a bike supporter, a more than occasional
bike
>commuter/rider, a frequent pedestrian and runner, and a too frequent
>motorist -- but I must agree that inconsiderate, ignorant (I think) and
>uncontrolled bikers are my major threat as I navigate the streets and
byways
>of Moscow of foot, on two wheels, or four and a motor. Critical mass,
Yes!
>We do need more/better bike-ped resources. But we need a change in
society
>too. What about education, what about working with kids (of all ages),
what
>about a whole bunch of other things besides a defiant show of force?
>
>
>Nick Sanyal, Ph.D.
>Assistant Professor
>Department of Resource Recreation and Tourism
>University of Idaho
>Moscow Idaho 83844-1139
>
>Fax: 208/885-6226
>Phone: 208/885-7528
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Debbie Gray <dgray@uidaho.edu>
>To: vision2020@MOSCOW.COM <vision2020@MOSCOW.COM>
>Date: 01 November, 1998 10:09 PM
>Subject: Re: critical mass bike ride (fwd)
>
>
>>It seems one could use the words stupid and destructive in regards to
>>bicycle traffic as well.
>>
>>As in STUPID biker that dashed in front of me and weaved between the
lanes
>>wrecklessly, ran a stoplight and then flipped off the motorists? As in
>>STUPID speeding biker that almost wiped me out while I was walking
down
>>the sidewalk on campus while a lumbering 8 months pregnant? (as well
as
>>many other times, but that one really made ME mad as hell)
>>
>>As in DESTRUCTIVE biker that destroys mountain habitat while creating
new
>>paths and trails for 'exciting' mud adventures on Moscow Mountain?
>>
>>However, I know name calling is never a solution to any problem...
>>
>>I support bicyclists, pedestrians, motorists, equestrians, etc. but
all
>>must be SAFE and SENSIBLE with their chosen modes and being a bicylist
or
>>pedestrian does not instantly endow one with brilliance, wisdom or
>>enviro-sensibility.
>>
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>> Debbie Gray dgray@uidaho.edu University of Idaho
Library
>> If the world were to end tomorrow, I would still plant a tree
today.
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>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 20:45:57 -0700
>>From: david peckham <peckham@mailcity.com>
>>To: Scott Dredge <Scott_Dredge@baynetworks.com>
>>Cc: vision2020@moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: critical mass bike ride
>>Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 20:49:27 -0800 (PST)
>>Resent-From: vision2020@moscow.com
>>
>> Yes, I beleive there is some similar connection. I cannot speak to
the
>>claim of lawless disrespect. I have never been in a critical mass, (I
was
>>unable to attend Friday's and I don't believe there were enough
cyclcists
>>to reach CM) but my understanding is that the mass cannot split to
stop
>>for traffic lights that change while the mass is passing, because that
>>would break the mass.
>>
>> I think the defiant statement is not so much that YOU should be
pedalling
>>instead of driving, but that pedaling is a worthy mode deserving of
>>respect and accomodation. You know the environmental and economic
>>reasons. It makes no logical sense that bicycling should be so
>>marginalized, and frankly we're mad as hell. Motorists need to be
>>reminded how stupid and destructive their habit can sometimes be.
>>
>>
>>dave Peckham
>>--
>>
>>
>
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