vision2020
Re: critical mass bike ride (fwd)
Right on, Debbie. I too am a bike supporter, a more than occasional bike
commuter/rider, a frequent pedestrian and runner, and a too frequent
motorist -- but I must agree that inconsiderate, ignorant (I think) and
uncontrolled bikers are my major threat as I navigate the streets and byways
of Moscow of foot, on two wheels, or four and a motor. Critical mass, Yes!
We do need more/better bike-ped resources. But we need a change in society
too. What about education, what about working with kids (of all ages), what
about a whole bunch of other things besides a defiant show of force?
Nick Sanyal, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of Resource Recreation and Tourism
University of Idaho
Moscow Idaho 83844-1139
Fax: 208/885-6226
Phone: 208/885-7528
-----Original Message-----
From: Debbie Gray <dgray@uidaho.edu>
To: vision2020@MOSCOW.COM <vision2020@MOSCOW.COM>
Date: 01 November, 1998 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: critical mass bike ride (fwd)
>It seems one could use the words stupid and destructive in regards to
>bicycle traffic as well.
>
>As in STUPID biker that dashed in front of me and weaved between the lanes
>wrecklessly, ran a stoplight and then flipped off the motorists? As in
>STUPID speeding biker that almost wiped me out while I was walking down
>the sidewalk on campus while a lumbering 8 months pregnant? (as well as
>many other times, but that one really made ME mad as hell)
>
>As in DESTRUCTIVE biker that destroys mountain habitat while creating new
>paths and trails for 'exciting' mud adventures on Moscow Mountain?
>
>However, I know name calling is never a solution to any problem...
>
>I support bicyclists, pedestrians, motorists, equestrians, etc. but all
>must be SAFE and SENSIBLE with their chosen modes and being a bicylist or
>pedestrian does not instantly endow one with brilliance, wisdom or
>enviro-sensibility.
>
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> Debbie Gray dgray@uidaho.edu University of Idaho Library
> If the world were to end tomorrow, I would still plant a tree today.
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>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 20:45:57 -0700
>From: david peckham <peckham@mailcity.com>
>To: Scott Dredge <Scott_Dredge@baynetworks.com>
>Cc: vision2020@moscow.com
>Subject: Re: critical mass bike ride
>Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 20:49:27 -0800 (PST)
>Resent-From: vision2020@moscow.com
>
> Yes, I beleive there is some similar connection. I cannot speak to the
>claim of lawless disrespect. I have never been in a critical mass, (I was
>unable to attend Friday's and I don't believe there were enough cyclcists
>to reach CM) but my understanding is that the mass cannot split to stop
>for traffic lights that change while the mass is passing, because that
>would break the mass.
>
> I think the defiant statement is not so much that YOU should be pedalling
>instead of driving, but that pedaling is a worthy mode deserving of
>respect and accomodation. You know the environmental and economic
>reasons. It makes no logical sense that bicycling should be so
>marginalized, and frankly we're mad as hell. Motorists need to be
>reminded how stupid and destructive their habit can sometimes be.
>
>
>dave Peckham
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