RE: there's a new kid in town

["Brian Jay" <brian_jay@starmail.com>]

Mr. Jones,
     I have reviewed the messages you quote and, when read in context,
these quotes do not give me the same impression that they give you.
     I, like Ms. Opyr, feel that coming to a personal judgement on the
value of a belief or of a person does not make me intolerant.  I tolerate
your right to believe whatever you want and live your life accordingly. 
That doesn't mean that I can't state that you and your beliefs are nutty.
     It is unfortunate that you feel you must quote Ms. Opyr out of context
in order to belittle the MCA.  I'm afraid that it is you who look shifty.

btw, these messages are available at 
http://lists.fsr.com/vision2020/2002/0206/msg00265.html
http://lists.fsr.com/vision2020/2002/0207/msg00554.html


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Original Message
From: "Doug Jones"<credenda@moscow.com>
Subject: RE: there's a new kid in town
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:25:28 -0500

>Visionaries,
>
>The Moscow Civic Association says its mission is "to protect and enhance
>inclusive and cooperative community values" as well as "ethnic, racial,
>gender, lifestyle, and religious diversity."
>
>Apparently there is internal board dissent already or someone is being
>less than honest. The always-honest Joan Opyr, now board member of the
>MCA has openly written:
>
> “I never made any claims to pluralism or multiculturalism”
>Joan Opyr, June 21, 2002, Vision 2020
>
>and
>
> “. . . [A]s I think I've mentioned before, you're assigning that
>‘alleged tolerance’ to me as a straw man.  None of my alleged friends
>would say that I was allegedly tolerant.  I have judged you, and found
>you wanting. . .”
>Joan Opyr, July 29, 2002
>
>The MCA should just be as honest as Joan. Disingenuousness makes the MCA
>look shifty and clichéd. This is 2002 not 1936. Join the times, MCA. Be
>forthright.
>
>Doug Jones
>
>
>
>
>

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