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Re: Argonaut editorial




In a message dated 9/17/02 10:25:16 PM, ltrwritr@moscow.com writes:

<< I find your logic in determining that the equal rights portion of MER's
response is false convoluted at best. >>

I just thought equal rights meant just that.  Men and women, or women and men 
if you prefer, equal.  Both shirted seems to be as equal to me as both 
topless.  

<<When the abolitionists prior to the
Civil War determined in their own hearts that all men were created equal,
they didn't say, "well, in order not to rock the boat, why don't we go down
south and become slaves so we will all be equal.".  Instead they struggled
to bring the rights of the slave population to a par with that of the free
white man.  Similarly, when the Civil Rights movement of the 60's became a 
cause that
people paid attention to, Martin Luther King did not say that we should all
move to the back of the bus, instead he tried to say that we should all sit
or stand based on needs and courtesy, not the color of your skins.>>

The arguments you make regarding slavery and the civil rights movement don't 
work for me.  The argument against slavery was not for equality but that it 
was wrong and should not be allowed.  Period, end of story; no 
sensationalism, at least in their position, if not the war.  The argument for 
the civil rights movement was that blacks deserved and wanted the freedoms 
others had. It was as simple as "I have a dream."

If what you want is women to be allowed to be topless because men are, just 
say so.

<<its reassuring that you have found something that you find objectional with 
this ordinance, namely the adopting of a city wide dress code.>>

You are giving me credit for something I didn't say.  My post said, "you have 
confirmed my belief that the "equal rights" position on this issue is not 
valid.  It has to do with either not wanting restrictions on female clothing 
or a desire to go bare breasted."  I'm just looking for truth in advertising.

I have found the discussion much more interesting than the topless car wash, 
the ordinance, or the effort to have it repealed.  It is getting a little 
old, though.

Walter Steed




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