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Re: Discrimination
- To: vision2020@moscow.com
- Subject: Re: Discrimination
- From: Scott Dredge <sdredge@yahoo.com>
- Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 23:27:12 -0700 (PDT)
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- Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 23:26:36 -0700 (PDT)
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Usually when I hear someone say "That's a lot of what
if's" it's in reference to a chain of events that all
would need to occur in a certain sequence in order to
cause some type of problem. I'm not sure what kind of
a point you're trying to make. Is it that you don't
believe discrimination occurs? There are likely
several subscribers on this list who are capable of
providing real life examples.
Some people choose to walk away from discrimination,
which is their right, and some people choose to take
it through some mediation process, which is also their
right. And if the mediator decides that fair business
practices are to be adhered to within a community,
Doug even has the freedom to say that we're not living
in a free society. And he would be correct since my
rights end where his rights start. Thus, I don't have
the freedom to stomp all over Doug's rights if he
doesn't want me to. This is Doug's complaint, but I
don't have an issue with it.
-SD
--- Kirk Koefod <kdk@moscow.com> wrote:
That's a lot of what if's.....Bob.
Kirk Koefod
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Hoffmann" <escape@alt-escape.com>
To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 6:08 PM
Subject: Re:
> At 11:00 AM 6/22/2002 -0700, Douglas wrote:
> >If a Christian feels morally responsible to her God
for what goes on
in
> >her apartment upstairs, to force her to compromise
her religious
standards
> >(by passing a law making it illegal to take sexual
orientation into
> >account as she rents) is calling the cops on her
religious beliefs.
You
> >are forcing her to conform to your views, and
forcing her to abandon
her
> >own. Just say so, and you will all feel better.
>
> Ah, but what about when someone's religious believes
say that the
"races"
> should not intermingle, and a white (or Indian or
whatever) woman
wants to
> deny a Black or Jew or Chinese a place to rent on
that basis? What
if
some
> religion says that people with a particular handicap
or illness are
an
> abomination? This issue goes beyond allowing people
to discriminate
> against homosexuals because of religious beliefs.
We live in a
nation
> where there are various "protected categories."
Deciding if a
category is
> protected or not extends beyond looking around to
see if said
proposed
> category is found objectionable by someone's
religion. Yes, there is
force
> behind our laws. But ultimately, laws are laws.
>
>
> Bob Hoffmann
> 846 Mabelle St.
> Moscow, ID 83843
>
> Tel: 208 883-0642
>
>
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