Re: Research

[John Harrell <johnbharrell@yahoo.com>]

Hello Melynda Huskey,

> John Harrell  has assembled an interesting collection of ideas which are
> intended, I think, to demonstrate the pathology, or perhaps the criminality,
> of gay and lesbian people.  

No that wasn't my intent. 

As stated in the post, I had two reasons for the post: 

1) to show to Daniel Kronemann and others that we all have a bag of 
statistics which we can pull from to prove our case. I also said that the 
next logical step for Daniel Kronemann would be to try to discredit the 
sources, which you have attempted to do below. Stat wars and the associated
discredit wars are a waste of time and detract from the point at hand.
Volumes of statistics could be laid out and would just bore people to death.

2) to try to get this thread back back to the issues of indoctrination,
which in your previous post you have addressed, thank you.

Thank you for the discussion,
Cheers!
John Harrell


--- DonaldH675@aol.com wrote:
> John Harrell  has assembled an interesting collection of ideas which are
> intended, I think, to demonstrate the pathology, or perhaps the criminality,
> of gay and lesbian people.  Some of them are worth examining in greater 
> detail.
> 
> Dr. Spitzer's study has been widely misrepresented.  Of his 200 research
> subjects, only about 40% of his subjects were exclusively attracted to
> partners of the same sex before they attempted to change. They were
> primarily "ex-gay" activists (78%) whom he characterized as "unusually
> religious."  And the study found that only 66% of men and 44% of women had
> achieved self-reported "good heterosexual functioning."   In other words,
> some very highly motivated people, many of whom were bisexual to begin with,
> felt that they had achieved, not a change in orientation, but the ability to
> function as heterosexuals.  Spitzer himself said in a New York Times
> interview that the success rate was "pretty low" and couldn't be generalized
> to the gay and lesbian population in general.
> 
> The Family Research Council pamphlet on the physical health risks for gay
> men and lesbians is based on the work of Paul Cameron, an independent
> researcher who has been expelled from the American Psychological Association
> and the American Sociological Association for ethical violations, including
> deliberately misrepresenting other scientists' research
> (http:/psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_cameron.html)
> 
> Cameron's median age of death study has been repudiated by no less a person
> than former supporter William Bennet, who wrote in a letter to the New
> Republic (1998, February 23, page 4): "Given what I now know, I believe
> there are flaws with Paul Cameron's study. One cannot extrapolate from his
> methodology and say that the average male homosexual life span is 43 years." 
> 
> Dr. Timothy Daily's study employs a common logical elision to arrive at his
> conclusion: he classifies all male-male sexual assault as homosexual.  Dr.
> Nathaniel McConaghy (1998) clarifies this point: "The man who offends
> against prepubertal or immediately postpubertal boys is typically not
> sexually interested in older men or in women" (p. 259).  In other words,
> most sexually predatory men who molest boys are pedophiles--mentally ill men
> who harm children.  They are neither gay nor straight.  Gay men and
> lesbians, like their heterosexual counterparts, seek adult partners. 
> 
> Melynda Huskey, Ph.D.
> 


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com