Re: Riffing and charter school service

["Mike Curley" <curley@turbonet.com>]

In reply:
> Yes, but what if the teacher came from a charter
> school to a public school 
last year?
I thought the law means that they get to count the
charter school service as if it had occured in any
district school. Currently I can think of two
teachers both with charter school experience prior
to teaching at "regular" district schools. Does
that experience count towards seniority??
Yes

Wouldn't that
place them "ahead" of teachers with less
experience in the district. 
Yes.

In fact, you can check but I believe that you have
riffed a teacher who had two years of charter
school experience IN THIS DISTRICT.  I just wondered if  you had taken that
into account when making up the seniority
schedules. 
Yes, it was taken into account.

Also you state that they
would have no "extra priority" so you mean that by
leaving the "regular" school they would loose
their seniority rank?? 
No, I mean that the time a teacher is at a  charter school counts the SAME as the time s/he  is in a "regular" district school--no less (as you  pointed out originally) and no more (as I was  pointing out).

In fact to the best of my knowledge most of the  reduction in force was accomplished because of  retirements, including those who retired  because of an early retirment incentive the  district offered this year (an ultimate money- saver for the district).  I believe only one teacher  was subject to the RIF, at least to the extent of  fully losing a position (others may have lost part  of a position).  And, I do not believe that teacher  had prior charter experience but in any event  appropriate consideration was given to anyone  with charter school experience.

Mike Curley



Charter school teachers were not affected by >  the
reduction in force in the district schools.*  >
The section you quote would have had >  application
if one of the charter teachers had > sought to
transfer back to the district for next > year. 
That teacher's seniority would have been >
calculated and compared to others to >  determine
if s/he would have been subject to > the RIF.  If
a charter teacher wants to return to > the
district at some later date s/he will be in line >
with teachers who were "cut" by the RIF in order  >
of their seniority.  In other words, a teacher who
> moves to a charter school and then back to the >
district has no extra priority than s/he would >
have had by staying in the district the entire >
period. > > Mike Curley > * Charter schools  ARE
district schools by state > law although they are
not governed by the > district administration.  As
used here, "district > schools" is used to
distinguish those that are not > charter schools.
> > > On 17 May 02, at 0:15, hayfields@moscow.com
wrote: > > Date forwarded: 	Thu, 16 May 2002
16:54:04 -0700 (PDT) > To:            
vision2020@moscow.com > From:          
hayfields@moscow.com > Subject:        	 Riffing
and charter school service > Date sent:      	Fri,
17 May 2002 00:15:29 GMT > Forwarded by:  
vision2020@moscow.com > > I was just  curious, did
the school district > consider charter school
service when they set up > the seniority  schedule
for riffing teachers? I am > not a lawyer nor do I
pretend to be one and I do > not have an axe to
grind in this discussion, > beyond curiousity. I
noticed that Title 33 Chapter > 52 of the Idaho
statutes states "(3) Certified > teachers in a
charter school shall be considered > public  school
teachers. Educational experience > shall accrue
for service in a charter school and > such
experience shall be counted by any school >
district to which the teacher returns after >
employment in a charter school" We have 2 >
charter > schools in this town and I was just
curious how > this effects teachers who may  have
moved from >  one > type of school to the  other.
If this wasn't > considered what will happen?  
Can anyone out > there answer this question for
me? I can't attend > the school board meeting
tonight or I would ask > it > myself.  Maybe one
of the board members > knows the > answer.   > >
Heather > Jordan > >
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