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Re: Ineresting Editorial
Excerp of the Geneva Convention...
Article 4
A. Pisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons
belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power
of the enemy:
2(d) That of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and
customs of war.
These men have decided that the means to the end of the war is through
terrorism. This is not in accordance of the laws and customs of war. THese
men are not Prisoners of war and do not fall under the terms of the Geneva
Convention.
I am not saying we should treat these men horribly. I am saying that as far
as the Geneva Convention is concerned there men are unconventional
combatants and are therefore not strictly entitled to the terms setforth,
Mike Rush
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey@moscow.com>
To: <thansen@moscow.com>; <vision2020@moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:08 AM
Subject: Re: Ineresting Editorial
> I don't imagine anyone wants them treated with kit (or kid, either)
gloves.
> But one might consider their rights under the Geneva Convention, why we
are
> not according them POW status, and what sort of response our enemies (and
> friends, too) will have when our enemies capture our own soldiers and our
> friends are called upon to support us. As we are judged by the nations in
> this world, what we do in Guantanamo should not serve to negate our status
> as a democratic nation with laws and procedures that are fair. The
> treatment of American prisoners of war during the 1940s, while inhumane;
is
> not the issue here, any more than was our treatment of Native tribes
during
> the 1800s.
>
> I do not know whether the treatment of the people detained in Guantanamo
is
> inhumane or not, but some of our Government's responses to the questions
> people are asking, does make me wonder. What you really hope to
accomplish
> by the last few lines in your message, I simply cannot imagine.
>
> Sue Hovey
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thansen@moscow.com <thansen@moscow.com>
> To: vision2020@moscow.com <vision2020@moscow.com>
> Date: Monday, January 28, 2002 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: Ineresting Editorial
>
>
> >Greetings Visionaires -
> >
> >I find it absolutely appalling that somebody actually feels we should
treat
> >prisoners of war with kit gloves. My father was a POW in Germany during
> WW2.
> >His daily ration consisted of two slices of black bread and a pint of
> water.
> >
> >I will not even begin to discuss treatment of American POWs imprisoned in
> >the "Hanoi Hilton" during Vietnam.
> >
> >If somebody actually feels that these prisoners are being treated
> inhumanely,
> >please contact your congressman and volunteer your abode for the
> "safekeeping"
> >of these "unfortunates".
> >
> >Take care,
> >
> >Tom Hansen
> >
> >> Archie,
> >>
> >> What would you suggest as an alternative to the way in which the
> >> suspects are being detained at this time? I don't believe that
allowing
> >> them to bond out on their own recognizance would prove to be a wise
> >> move. What about keeping them at the Walt Disney Hotel in Florida?
That
> >> could be considered torture by some. I feel sure that any conditions
> they
> >> are subjected to would beat the heck out of the way you were treated if
> >> you were ever imprisoned under their control.
> >>
> >> Clint Payton
> >> email: tex@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Archie wrote:
> >>
> >> > They may be criminals, maybe not. That's the whole issue. Just be
> cause
> >they were taken
> >into
> >> > custody doesn't mean much. It could be you, and will be if you don't
> doubt
> >it.
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "P C" <PhilCooper@webtv.net>
> >> > To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
> >> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:36 PM
> >> > Subject: Ineresting Editorial
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Crying Over Ear-muffed Terrorists
> >> > >
> >> > > "The bleeding-heart liberals wringing their hands over the
treatment
> of
> >> > > terrorists in Guantanamo should listen to firefighter Chuck Downey.
> 'I'd
> >> > > like these people who are so worried about these murderers to have
> >> > > witnessed firefighters searching for their brothers at the World
> Trade
> >> > > Center rubble, and pulling out pieces of people who were their
> friends.'
> >> > > Chuck's dad, Deputy Chief Ray Downey, was the most decorated
> firefighter
> >> > > in the country. He's still buried in that rubble. And the so-called
> >> > > human-rights organizations, along with the knee-jerk anti-American
> >> > > 'intellectuals' in Europe, are crying their eyes out about how some
> of
> >> > > the world's worst criminals spend their days in a sunny corner of
> Cuba."
> >> > > - Columnist Steve Dunleavy, New York Post, 1/22/02
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
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