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RE: Not rain nor snow nor Saturday...
I am not surprised at all... this is why I attack the method by which we,
the consumer, decide to purchase goods and services. We are so lazy! We are
so apathetic! We have been brainwashed to respond to annoying advertising
instead of becoming active to promote our favorite businesses. Word of mouth
is the only reliable method for any of us to get unbiased quality
information about a business we are unfamiliar with. I relied on word of
mouth to promote my business because I refused to give in and waste natural
resources to benefit my personal needs. I was able to see that those
customers who were vocal about my service brought me many more customers.
Unfortunately in today's "me" society many of us do not bother supporting
our businesses. We betray the people who have given us excellent service and
buy from another source just to save a few bucks. We should support
businesses that work hard for the betterment of our society. We should be
vocal and enthusiastic supporters. If we are not we will loose in the long
run. The individuals who dedicate themselves to social responsibility must
eat too! If the only way to survive is through methods that are harmful in
the long term then we, as a society and consumers, are to blame for the lack
of ethics and social responsibility. Our wasteful methods might seem
inexpensive now but as history should have taught us by now the costs of
waste are paid by future generations. Do we really want to leave our
children with the kind of mess that our fathers left us? Did we not learn
anything about the affects of irresponsible business? The pollution, the
health effects, the depletion of resource... none have taught us a lesson?
Then we are blind indeed! If we continue in this path we will wake to a
desolate world striped of personality and soul. Soon the only stores will be
the huge national stores with their monopoly power and huge advertising
budgets stuffing their products down your throat! We have already lost more
freedom than most of us realize. The propaganda machine is strong! The same
way that in china they are brainwashed to think that we were to blame for
the recent crash of their jet fighter and our "spy plane", we are
brainwashed to think that we must have a McDonnald burger every week or that
Staples has lower prices or it is ok to target, corner, and force people to
make financial choices to their disadvantage because it is "their choice".
We are manipulated every day. Our entire economy... our entire country is
based on theft, lies, manipulation, and deceit. We have to work together to
fix these problems. We as a society have to oppose waste and injustice at
every turn. We have to stand and speak up for Truth. We have to shun
selfishness, greed, opulence and gluttony. We have to reward and respect
those who champion Truth and act in a socially responsible way. We have to
stop allowing the all mighty dollar to rule our dominion and extinguish our
soul!
"Your brother in arms"
Shahab...
-----Original Message-----
From: LuJane - Eagle [mailto:lujane@lataheagle.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 4:45 PM
To: Jennifer Swanberg
Cc: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: Re: Not rain nor snow nor Saturday...
It is wasteful... but the results usually outweigh the cost it is to do it
and so it is deemed "successful." My statistics may not be completely
correct but they are what I remember being quoted by the postoffice when I
asked about doing a mailing. I shrug my shoulders a lot as I try to find
other ways to successfully "sell" my product. It works the best so far. I
would much rather find another way and honestly we look and look. We used to
be able to pay little kids to go sell but that seems to not work anymore.
Kids are given so much from parents now days there is no incentive for them
to "sell" or work. If anyone has ANY suggestions at all for a small
businessperson like myself that might work, I am always open to putting it
to the test. So far, bulk mail and phone solicitation is the only thing that
has worked.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jennifer Swanberg <JJSwanberg@TurboNet.com>
To: LuJane - Eagle <lujane@lataheagle.com>
Cc: <vision2020@moscow.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: Not rain nor snow nor Saturday...
> 95-98% ineffective. Sounds wasteful to me.
>
> LuJane - Eagle wrote:
>
> > As long as people respond to spam (whether it be e-mail or snail mail)
it
> > will continue. It gets results. You (and I) may hate it and wish it to
stop,
> > but I'll lay bets all of us respond to SOMETHING sometime. Statistics
show
> > that if you do a mailing you should expect about 2-5% (in certain things
> > 10%) return on it... that doesn't sound like much but if you are mailing
> > 10's of thousands, it gives a good return. I've used it from time to
time in
> > my business and gotten a good return. I've used telephone solicitation
and
> > gotten good returns. If it didn't work, businesses wouldn't use it. WE
> > govern what is used and what isn't. Even though I dislike the mounds of
mail
> > and telephone solicitations I get (and I cuss and rant as everyone
else)...
> > I also contribute to it. It is very difficult to start a business
without
> > it. You have to get the message out that you are here and doing business
and
> > it is effective.
> >
> > I suppose that contributes little to this discussion but it is, after
all,
> > an observation that WE control what is used and what isn't and if WE (as
a
> > population) would not respond to these things they would stop... die a
> > natural death.
> >
> > LJ
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Shahab Mesbah <meteor2@moscow.com>
> > To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 11:48 AM
> > Subject: RE: Not rain nor snow nor Saturday...
> >
> > > Dear friends,
> > >
> > > This is a great point and one that brings me to another issue... why
do we
> > > have so much mail?! If you are at all like me you throw half of your
mail
> > > directly in the recycle bin. Just like the "free paper" issue the
> > > advertisers are cluttering the system with junk mail. This mail not
only
> > > wastes paper but also energy and human resources to get to us. When
are we
> > > going to demand an appropriate level of responsibility for
advertising?
> > > Whether an unwanted newspaper, an unwanted mail, an unwanted phone
call or
> > > an unwanted email it is intrusion in my property... why can't we stop
> > > this... it should be illegal. We waste so much of resources in this
way.
> > As
> > > evident in today's world we do not have unlimited resources. We know
more
> > > than the earthlings of a generation ago! We have witnessed the
degradation
> > > of our ecosystem. We have witnessed the degradation of our society.
Why
> > > can't we stop the waste? Who pays for it? We do! We pay for the rising
> > > energy costs, postal costs, all of them. When a company wastes
money... we
> > > pay for it in rising cost of goods. When it is all said and done... we
> > flip
> > > the bill either directly or through our taxes so we should be
eliminating
> > > these wastes as much as possible. It is to our interest as residents
on
> > this
> > > planet!
> > >
> > > "Your brother in arms"
> > >
> > > Shahab...
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Evan & Nancy Holmes [mailto:ncmholmes@moscow.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 9:17 AM
> > > To: vision2020@moscow.com
> > > Subject: Not rain nor snow nor Saturday...
> > >
> > > To: The Distinguished Committee For The Advancement Of Immediate
Remedy
> > >
> > > Discontinuing Saturday mail delivery wouldn't eliminate all the
costs
> > > associated with it - the burden on carriers to deliver proportionately
> > more
> > > mail on each of the other days may require the shortening of routes
and
> > > hiring more personnel. Mondays may become especially difficult to
handle.
> > > Also, nobody has mentioned the benefit of having mail picked up
while
> > > mail is delivered. This is a great service and if it is no longer done
on
> > > Saturdays there may be a statistically significant increase in the
number
> > > of individual trips (usually by auto) made to the Post Office or other
> > drop
> > > off point...
> > >
> > > The only way I can figure to really save money on Saturday deliveries
is
> > to
> > > assign the task to some income-challenged cross-dressers who could
drive
> > > down the middle of each street tossing bundled mail left and right out
> > > their car windows ... or has this already been tried?
> > >
> > > Your Brother-In-Tank-Top,
> > >
> > > Evan
> > >
>
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