Re: Another Tragedy on Highway 95/example and test

["david sarff" <davesway@hotmail.com>]

Ok Good people,
Im going to lay out an example and a test that anyone that drives can 
perform(this is related to Duncan's speed consistency and Greg's what is 
safe post's )
Do this around 4:30 and 5:30 PM (No new drivers and do not take the kids!)
Drive south on 95 find mile post 342 continue on at speed. After a rise you 
will find the road dips down and then up in a long left hand sweep. As the 
road straightens up and rises you will note Snow road on the 
right..continuing up the hill and near the top you will find a curved road 
warning sign and underneath a 55 mph post that was 45 a few years back. Just 
a little further you will see a left turn post for Zeitler rd. at mile post 
341.
Now stop for any on coming traffic(Sometimes you get to have a chip truck 
coming at you and one coming up in back) and turn left at Zeitler rd.
After you are done with this(Im guessing exciting test) get out and see how 
many simple things could be done to improve the odds of not getting totally 
removed from your skin.
Is the 55 sign helping or not(Im shooting for not and Ive called the state 
on it)
On the return to town(north) stop to take the left at Snow road.
For added effect imagine ice and snow while performing these tests.

Of coarse a new four lane road will likely fix these .But then on the other 
hand they have been that way for years and many simple cheap immediate 
actions on the states part could have helped prevent a good many of the 
documented accidents in that area(including Death)...In my humble opinion.
As for Riesenauer hill I will out of respect for and the sensitivity  of a 
few poor souls leave it out for the time being.
I think Road safety funds and action should have priority over any other 
interest. Some will tell you that is the case. I don't buy it.
David Sarff

>From: G M <herecomestheflood@yahoo.com>
>To: Dan Schmidt <schmidt6@Turbonet.com>, david sarff <davesway@hotmail.com>
>CC: Vision2020@moscow.com
>Subject: Re: Another Tragedy on Highway 95/ example and test
>Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:14:03 -0800 (PST)
>
>--- Dan Schmidt <schmidt6@Turbonet.com> wrote: (snip)
> > Dave, I was interested to find out the thinking
> > behind posting speed limits
> > on city streets. The city engineer explained that
> > streets are monitored and
> > the posted limit is supposed to be what 80% of the
> > vehicles traveling that
> > route hit. Unless there is a strong safety issue
> > that is the method for
> > city streets.Leadership by consensus.
>****************
>
>I find this alarming, a bit like the formula used to
>raise speed limits on our nation's highways - "we're
>raising them because motorists are driving faster than
>the current speed limit (i.e. breaking the law)..."
>
>Is it really true that speed limits within the city
>are established based on how fast vehicles are moving
>as opposed to what a safe speed would be?  And what
>consitutes a "strong" safety issue?
>
>Greg Meyer
>
>
>
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>
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