Re: Guns, again

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> >> Stan
> >> 
> >> I will await you references.  But I must say I would not consider the
> >> NRA or the SAF very good sources.
> >
> >ah! I see. no refernce I site will be good enough for you will it? if
> >they disagree with you thier obvisouly biased and lieing.
> 
> Actually, I would be interested in seeing the souces of 
> this information as well. It is true that some people or
> organizations will manipulate or ignore facts for their own
> personal benefit (as in the tobacco industries or the Neo- Nazis)
> but if, say, the NRA supports "their" evidence with a scientific
> study from an accredited college, then is it really biased?
> If someone thinks so, perhaps they can seek out the next 
> reference by looking for the results of said study.

www.nra.org and www.saf.org, I would also check the Justice Dept 
(althought there have been inside complaints that data is being 
misused to prove points the type of data collected was not ment for)

> >> Also, reference the Wiskey Rebellion, you mention that any decent post
> >> revolutionary history book would have it. What is a decent book to you?
> >>  
> 
> >> Please give me YOUR reference.
> >
> >nice try.  but a not very subtle attempt. I will site a title, and you
> >will dismiss it, sorry, I played that game before, not playing it again.
> >I have better things to do with my time. (and trying to say "see! he
> >can't site a thing" isn't going to work., been there, done that, got the
> >T-shirt AND the water bottle)
> >
> 
> History was never my strong point, and this "Whiskey Rebellion"
> topic introduced recently is new to me. Is this about Prohibition,
> or am I missing the point completely?
> T. C. 

just after the revolutionary war, the farmers in Pennsylvania had a 
habit of turning there Potatoes into Home Brew Whiskey, the 
Federal Govt laid a tax on it, the farmers said "in your face George, 
we just fought a war with Britain over Taxes" we're not paying, the 
Govt started arresting Farmers, the trials being held in Philadelphia 
(A VERY long way away for a farmer, somewhat equivalent to 
having to go from Moscow to Washington DC for a traffic ticket)
the Farmers (and others) started to protest this with the erecting of 
"Liberty Poles" and the taring and feathering of Tax Collectors, the 
new Federal Govt sent in troops to enforce the tax. this really 
annoyed a large section of the Population in Pennsylvania, but 
against armed troops, what choice did they have? Comply, or start 
another revolution (which a fair number appear to have been in favor 
of.) end result, they were more or less talked out of it and 
eventually gave in, giving the Federal Govt (which a lot of people did 
not support or want) it's first big "win" for a Federal government.

Stan