Re: Guns, again

["Wayne H Beebe" <whbeebe@turbonet.com>]

Stan:

(I recall Dan Rather stating on the News that
> the NRA was putting out a .50 Caliber Pistol powerfull enough to
> "stop a Rhino...

Please cite your reference--when and where did he say this?

Time Magaziners
> has publicaly stated that they will not print a positive firearms
> story,

Again, please cite your documentation.

Also, when we were discussing the Wiskey Rebellion you said some history
books called it the second American Revolution.  And you said there was some
question about the legality of congress calling out the militia to put it
down.

Again, please cite your sources.

Thanks


----- Original Message -----
From: <sec@moscow.com>
To: <Vision2020@moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: Guns, again


>
> > Thanks much for the reference. His rationale is sound and agrees with my
> > sense that the socio-political and military contexts which lead to the
2nd
> > amendment ceased to exist 150 years ago, following the Civil War {"War
> > between theStates"). Today our contexts are so radically different that
> > lethal arms uses must be constrained in order to provide for "domestic
> > tranquility" and the "general welfare." Amen  I outlined my ideas on
this
> > previously and I don't expect that consensus can be had at this stage of
> > the mis-informed state of public opinion.
> >
> > ------------------------
> > William K. Medlin
> > Dev-plan associates
> > 930 Kenneth Street
> > Moscow ID 83843
> > 208/892-0148
> > dev-plan@moscow.com
>
> Mis-informed state of public oppinon is correct, there has been a
> campain of lies told about firearms and firearm crime for the last 10-
> 15 years by the so called Media, lies are told blatlently, and they
> do not correct them (I recall Dan Rather stating on the News that
> the NRA was putting out a .50 Caliber Pistol powerfull enough to
> "stop a Rhino", the NRA doesn't make firearms. the pistol in
> question was being made by a company in another country, Eagle
> Arms (I do believe they are called) out of Isreal), Time Magaziners
> has publicaly stated that they will not print a positive firearms
> story, Handgun Control Inc considers a 25 year old male using a
> illegaly aquired firearm (generaly misidentified by HGI as a "assult
> Weapon", ie, a semi-auto .22 rifle) as a "horrible example of
> childern killing each other with guns". Mis-informed indeed.
>
> also Access to firearms was constrained in the 60's and violent
> crime went up, untill recenlty when more states allows CWP's,
> then it started to go down, conincedence? possibly, but the data
> dosn't support it. Canada has all but banned firearms (and has
> banned handguns), and yet violant crime grows weekly. England
> has all but banded Fiearms (and has baned handguns) and Violant
> Crime rises, Australia has all but banned Fireamrs, (and has baned
> handguns), and Violant Crime Rises. Alcohol was prohibited in this
> country by a change to the constitution,  yes it caused a rise in
> Violant crime and wide spread lawlessness, "drugs" (meaning
> those proscribed or controled by law) are prohibited or controlled by
> law, yet the "criminal element" and violance continues to grow in
> regards to them  ask a criminal if they target unarmed targets or
> targets that MIGHT have a gun, they say they go for the obviously
> unarmed ones. banning something only makes for more crime. if
> even the so called "soft drugs" (pot and hash) were legalized,
> taxed, and treated as tobbaco and alcohol, then the crimes and
> costs would go way way down, no one is going to have a fire fight
> over turf to sell pot if you can buy it in the corner store.if you ban
> firearms, the same thing will happen, all you will do is drive it
> underground, causing more crime and violance, esp since the
> criminals will KNOW that there prey is unarmed. (which is what is
> now happening in Canada, Home invasions are the "crime of
> choice" now.
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> Stan
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