vision2020@moscow.com: Re: Here We Go

Re: Here We Go

Scott Dredge (Scott_Dredge@BayNetworks.COM)
Tue, 16 Dec 1997 12:04:59 -0800

I'm not sure this is the proper forum to discuss age old never
ending arguments such as sex, religion, and politics. I think
it is interesting that there is a vigil scheduled in Pullman this
Wednesday December 17th to show that the community will not stand
for hatred and intolerance.

My comments were simply to congratulate the communities of Moscow
and Pullman for organizing this vigil against hatred and intolerance
and point out that racism issues are not just black and white.

It's pretty darn easy to come out and support a cause against
violence perpetrated by a group of skinhead nazis. It takes
a much bigger person to come out and denounce the violence of
bible toting abortion clinic bombers, those fighting tooth and
nail against corporate benefits for same sex partners, and the
many (to be read GOP and religious right) who want to further
an agenda of discrimination against gays, women, and others who
don't fit the traditionally oppressive Judeo-Christian mold.

Fortunately, this country was founded by some very wise men a
couple of hundred years ago and this country is finally coming
around full throttle to the ideals set forth by those who framed
the United States Constitution.

Now if we only had the proper tools to enforce a healthy balance
between man and nature, I think we could maximize our prosperity
while minimizing out destructiveness to each other and our
environment.

Cheers to all,

-Scott

Briana LeClaire wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>Scott, I have a few questions for you:
>>
>>1. Name one piece of legislation that doesn't "legislate morality."
>>
>>2. How do you "strike a blow" against anything by "dropping" something
>>else?
>>
>>3. If you think the GOP and the religious right are responsible for
>>racism, please give examples.
>>
>>Thank you for opening an interesting discussion!
>>

At 01:36 PM 12/15/97 -0800, Greg Meyer wrote:

>Now here is some potential for the beginning of a very interesting and
>revealing chat on the ol' 2020 list, a dialogue I've been hoping to see for
>awhile.
>
>I guess we'll find out who is willing to step up to the plate and take a few
>swings at the ball. With so much at stake for our nation as well as our
>world there has certainly never been a more critical time to take a critical
>look. Let's take some chances and open some doors we are all too often
>hesitant to disturb.
>
>Let's not ignore the national and global crises we face, tackle only
>relatively personal, local issues and in the process risk losing the big
>game by a lopsided score. Not that the new swimming pool or traffic calming
>aren't important issues, it's just that they seem a bit trivial in
>comparison to issues like racial and economic injustice, environmental
>degradation, the erosion of civil liberties and the ongoing threat (although
>many would play it down) of a nuclear confrontation.
>
>As we race to incarcerate more of our citizenry, burn up increasing amounts
>of what's left of the earth's fossil fuels, and sacrifice livlihoods and
>ecosystems in the name of corporate "progress", isn't it about time to start
>a serious debate about whether we might need a fairly significant change of
>direction? And why shouldn't Vision 2020, Moscow, Idaho, USA be an
>appropriate place to initiate such an investigation?
>
>
>Greg Meyer
>
>


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