> But okay, at some point (often too late) people start to dislike the mess
> they have created by building solely for autos. Ask people in the Chicago
> suburbs if they really like the traffic messes they have created? Do they
> have any place they really like in their communities? Do they really
> like miles and miles of strip malls? So is the only choice we
> have is to give up and let Moscow become strip malls and parking lots like
> most everywhere else?
>
> Or can we somehow get people to consider the tradeoffs when you "pave
> paradise and put up a parking lot?"
>
> Diane
>
>
> On Fri, 12 Apr 1996, Fritz Knorr wrote:
>
> >
> > >Actually, it's shorthand for my usual rant about:
> > >"The-organizing-principle-of-America-is-the-automobile-people-won't-go
> > >where-they-can't-drive-and-park-dammit-would Walmart-build-parking
> > >lots-where-customers-ride-shuttle-buses?-only-kids-under-sixteen,-
> > >pointy-headed-professors-and-granolas-ride-bikes-public-buildings
> > >need-adjacent-parking-for-customers-and-employees,blah,blah,blah.
> > >
> > >Aren't you glad I abbreviated it? :-)
> >
> > OK. But I also detected a note of
> > we-keep-deluding-ourselves-that-anyone-wants-a
> > liveable-community-all-they-really-want-is-a-place-to-drive-and-park-if-we-w
> > ant something-nice-it'll-only-come-by-sneaking-it-along-with-some-other-ugly
> > development-because-a-direct-approch-to-a-human-scale-livable-community-will
> > always-fail.
> >
> > I dunno, poetry is always open to interpretation.
> >
> > Let's face it - automobiles are the dominant species in out community.
> > Humans have completely lost control. Autos are greedy and dangerous, and
> > taking them on in a direct confrontation will always fail. They got us
> > beat. The only way to get something built for humans is to _sneak_ it by
> > the autos. The Mountain View project failed because it was human oriented
> > construction right on the auto's turf. It was a direct provocation. They
> > figured it out right away.
> >
> > So, for downtown, remember, autos really don't like parkades. You can
> > squeeze in urban autos when you really have to. But even they never
> > actually like it; although they'll tolerate it, barely. But you take the
> > country born and bred autos around here; why, they would never go in one of
> > those things.
> >
> > 50 cents an hour?? Forget it. Let's go to wal-mart.
> >
> > Fritz
> >
> >
> >
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