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       Walter, thanks for these questions. Research in this country and in 
      communities across the world show that restorative justice does have a 
      very strong influence in terms of reducing recidivism rates with 
      juveniles. It appears to have an influence with adults as well. Remember 
      that recidivism rates only measure the known (someone being caught again) 
      and some in the restorative movement downplay even numbers that support 
      this movement for that reason. If there is an interest I'll dig this 
      weekend and find the most recent hard recidivism numbers. 
      There has been some sentiment expressed in this community that 
      restoration only comes after criminal justice. While it is true that it 
      can be offered after the criminal process is completed, thankfully there 
      is growing work being done to offer alternatives to the traditional 
      process of retribution. 
       One value of restorative justice is to promote healing wherever 
      it can be found. Restorative conferences in cases of murder or death are 
      held between the offender and the victim's family, friends, etc. There 
      could be an empty chair,  a picture or whatever, but there is no hard 
      and fast rule on that. Cases of murder and other deaths require deep 
      healing and often the victims want restorative justice in these cases even 
      more than "routine" cases. Murder Victims Families for Reconciliation is 
      one of the stronger supporters of restorative justice. They travel the 
      country and talk about their experience; some have had meetings with the 
      offenders, most (maybe all) are opposed to the death penalty. Last spring 
      we hosted a conference and one of the speakers was a Mother whose daughter 
      was murdered in 1980. She has gone through an informal process of 
      reconciliation with her daughter's killer and is now one of the primary 
      advocates fighting the death Warrant issued by the state of 
      California. 
      Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania all have state sanctioned restorative 
      justice programs for high risk cases (including murder). All of these 
      programs are victim centered in that the victim must request a conference. 
      The Texas program is probably the best known despite their insistence that 
      they do not advertise. There are over five-hundred victims and family 
      members on a waiting list who want to meet with murderers, rapists, 
      etc. The story of Linda White was aired on court television in September 
      of 2001. It documents in great detail the process used: including the 
      training of facilitators and preparing victims and offenders for the 
      conference. Linda's daughter was murdered in 1986. Last year Linda and her 
      granddaughter voluntarily met with the man who killed their daughter/ 
      Mother. Equally important to the conference was that the victims two 
      brothers declined to participate. The pain was too great, but they did 
      send questions along with the others. At the end of the conference Linda 
      and her daughter asked the facilitator to take a series of pictures of 
      them standing with the killer (Gary Brown).  
      Restorative justice respects the rights of those victims and 
      offenders who chose not to participate, regardless of the severity of the 
      crime. Sometimes healing can be done without direct involvement of 
      one party or the other . Equally important is to respect the healing 
      process and rights of those who do want a more restorative paradigm of 
      justice. One father whose son completed a conference that I facilitated 
      said, "restorative justice has to work with the hard cases if is ever 
      going to make a meaningful difference in the community." 
      Tony 
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      1. What is the rate of re-offense when juvenile restorative justice is used vs. when it is not? (including later when they are adults) 2. Who do the offenders meet with when the victim is dead? Is there an empty chair in the circle of friends and relatives? This is not totally intended as a frivolous question as I am wondering if such practice should, by definition, not include cases where a death has occurred. Walter Steed .  | 
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