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Debate and Dialogue
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- From: "Doug Jones" <credenda@moscow.com>
- Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 00:29:08 -0800
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Glad to have you back from strep throat, Melynda.
Your contributions are always welcome.
Melynda Huskey wrote:
>
>Can you help me understand, Doug, why the
Moscow Civic Association has raised your hackles?
>
This is news to me. I suspect you're confusing
curious amusement with hackle raising. You yourself have raised very pointed
questions about Credenda and Christ Church. I understood those as honest
challenges that are part of the ongoing dialogue about visions. In like manner,
I raised a question about an interesting but typical conflict within MCA's
vision (exclusive inclusivity). I understand that those sort of questions aren't
typically raised in contemporary dialogues because progressives, Democrats,
Republicans, and the Jerry Fallwell right actually share many assumptions about
knowledge and power that I don't. But we're in Moscow, and our discussion is a
little different. But no hackles have popped up yet, just irony.
>
> You mentioned (or maybe it was Doug Wilson)
that non-egalitarian organizations such as your church often suffer when
progressive movements >gain power. Is that a potential concern?
>
Though egalitarian politics do have this tendency
(e.g., Canada's increasing limitation of
Christian speech and freedom of association, as well as your own stated
opposition to genuine freedom of association), that's far from our situation
here. I wouldn't beat an eyelid if the MCA were to hold every political seat in
Latah County. They're nice folks, and I don't think politics is where the real
struggle is anyway. My questions have been theoretical challenges to their
stated vision, along the lines of, is it a good vision if it can't be more
forthright about its obvious exclusivity? They shouldn't use
tolerance/inclusivity as a rhetorical club if they're principled exclusivists
themselves.
The 1936 reference wasn't to Nazis but to an era
when professed progressives appealed to tolerance during "the" show trials. That
rhetoric is tiresome and cliched; progressives should progress beyond it.
Doug Jones
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