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RE: DISCUSSION/Iraq and domestic protest
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- Subject: RE: DISCUSSION/Iraq and domestic protest
- From: "Dale Courtney" <dmcourtn@moscow.com>
- Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:42:26 -0700
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Dale wrote:
>> i.e., "My reason is my ultimate authority because it seems
>> reasonable to me to make it so." Nice circular argument.
Tony replied:
> All arguments are circular unless referenced to an ultimate
> authority.
I think you mean to say that all arguments for an absolute authority
must ultimately appeal to that authority for proof: otherwise the
authority would not be an absolute or highest authority.
> If, however, the existence of the ultimate
> authority must be accepted on faith, e.g. subjective belief,
> we are back to chasing our tales.
Everyone either implicitly or explicitly uses some kind of circular
argument when defending his or her ultimate authority for belief.
> There is a chance in a
> reasoned debate that we would realize that we are no closer
> to catching our tales than when we started. I don't think
> that chance exists in a faith based argument.
But the point is: *every* argument for ultimate authority is a
faith-based argument.
Dale Courtney
Moscow, Idaho
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