Re: Freedom pf Speech, Politics and Democracy

["Dan Carscallen" <predator75@moscow.com>]

I'm pretty sure my delete key won't get worn out.  Let the free speech fly! 

 

Besides, it's kinda interesting to see how many different ways the "No I'm not!"  vs. "Yes you are!" arguments can be used!

 

Searchin' for my lost shaker of salt,

 

Dan Carscallen

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Moffett <ted_moffett@hotmail.com>
To: escape@alt-escape.com <escape@alt-escape.com>
Cc: vision2020@moscow.com <vision2020@moscow.com>
Date: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:25 PM
Subject: Freedom pf Speech, Politics and Democracy

Everyone:

Just because 
many people are deleting numerous vision2020 posts does not 
mean the effort 
to discuss some the important issues being debated is not 
worth it.  
This is somewhat like saying that because less than 50 % of 
possible legal 
voters in the USA actually bother to vote, which is a 
fact!!!!!!, we should 
just cancel the elections due to lack of interest.  
After all, who 
wants to listen to all the campaign BS anyways, all those 
rude political ads 
that tell lies.  As in politics, so on vision2020, except 
can you get 
your rebuttal to a politician's lies printed in a public forum 
instantly 
like you can on vision2020?  Is this why many local candidates for 
political office avoid vision2020?  The flow of political speak must be 
managed!  Vision2020 is too free and open and therefore dangerous to a 
candidates campaign.

I don't like many of the vision2020 posts, but I 
accept this is what will 
happen when a truly open forum accepts public 
input.  We should be grateful 
we can express ourselves freely this 
way.  I may receive the ire of some for 
this comment, but I think some 
of the discontent with the content and/or 
quantity of posts on vision2020 is 
an expression of a lack of commitment to 
the rude, rough and tumble world of 
expression of opinion on social and 
political issues in a democracy.  I 
dislike it as much as anyone, but after 
all, deleting offensive posts is a 
small price to pay to have freedom and 
openness.  Am I way off base 
here?

Ted



>From: Bob Hoffmann <escape@alt-escape.com>
>To: vision2020@moscow.com
>Subject: 
Taking it off list/separate list
>Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 19:55:26 
-0700
>
>I'm one of the people who has been deleting a huge number 
of v2020 postings 
>in the past couple months.
>
>I think a 
lot of people don't take their "personal arguments" off-list 
>because they want to be able to expose the idiocy, hypocrisy, lunacy, 
>stupidity, illogic, etc., of their "opponents" before a large 
audience.
>
>In my mind, this is a fallacy.  So many people 
seem to be deleting postings 
>by the basket, the effect is that these 
arguments are indeed private--few, 
>if any, people are reading the 
postings except for those actually 
involved.
>
>

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