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Re: DISCUSSION/Douglas Stambler



bill, you smell like cheese


>From: Bill London <london@moscow.com>
>Reply-To: london@moscow.com
>To: Douglas <dougwils@moscow.com>
>CC: vision2020@moscow.com
>Subject: Re: DISCUSSION/Douglas Stambler
>Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 16:02:49 -0700
>
>I agree that there is no reason to engage in a debate with Stambler.
>And I am really sorry that Doug Wilson (like our police chief, judge,
>and former prosecutor in posts over the last few years) had to read and
>endure written attacks that sure seem libelous, as well as
>mean-spirited, on the V2020 list.
>BL
>
>Douglas wrote:
>
> >  Dear visionaries,
> >
> > As you know, I believe that discussion of a vision for our community
> > should contain debate about foundational issues. Some, as evidenced by
> > Mike Curley's last post, find it unfair to have to delete so much,
> > while others think that the debate (within boundaries that we work
> > out) should continue. I am in that number, and do think our exchanges
> > have had a modest fruitfulness -- even apart from convincing anyone.
> > Equally obvious, I hope, is my belief that vigorous exchanges need not
> > be uncivilized.
> >
> > There are different ways to disrupt this, and Douglas Stambler's
> > recent flame-throwing activities would be an example of one. In our
> > community, we have had dealings with Mr. Stambler before this recent
> > outburst, and the point here is simply to say that his various claims
> > are not the issue at all. As we have seen before this, and as has been
> > evident on this forum, Douglas Stambler clearly has serious personal
> > problems. I want to encourage everyone to simply ignore his posts, and
> > not engage him about anything. To do anything else will simply
> > encourage him to continue in behavior that is obviously not helping
> > him at all.
> >
> > I am an apologist for the Christian faith, as well as a
> > controversialist, when I believe the circumstances warrant. But I am
> > also a pastor, and it is evident to me that Douglas Stambler
> > desperately needs wise pastoral care and counsel. He is unlikely to
> > seek it, but in the meantime, he ought not to be debated at all. I
> > hope that many of you can look past our standing disagreements to
> > agree with me in at least this.
> >
> > Cordially,
> >
> > Douglas Wilson




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