vision2020
Re: City Council
I tend to agree
with the position that this is much ado about nothing. Sure, I like
looking at nekkid breasts, but I haven't found my way to the car wash yet.
If everyone would quit making such a big deal about it, it would go away
quietly.
Not that I have
anything against some young ladies trying to raise some quick cash . .
.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: City Council
Great job John Danahy,
I would like to add
one:
What is the definition of "is"?
Cheers!
John
Harrell
--- John Danahy <JDANAHY@turbonet.com> wrote:
>
Thank you Pam for your listing the various ordinances. Perhaps someone
with
> more legal expertise than I can answer a few questions I
have.
>
> Why can the city council declare the nipple and areolas
of females indecent
> but not males?
>
> When does a female
become "mature"?
>
> If it becomes unlawful to show the contour
of nipple and areola, does this
> also mean through swim suits, t-shirts
(dry or wet), sports bras etc?
>
> Will the city council require
the MPD to have an officer at the pool every
> day to make sure above is
cited when it happens?
>
> To what extent is the term "southern
hemisphere" defined?
>
> If someone were to spill water on a
female and the contour then shows, who
> gets cited?
>
>
How much will it cost the city to litigate this action and where does
the
> council think the funds will come
from?
> (Assume
through the US Supreme Court)
>
> John Danahy
> jdanahy@turbonet.com
> -----
Original Message -----
> From: "Pam Palmer" <ppalmer@moscow.com>
> To: "John
Guyer" <johnguy@moscow.com>;
"'Vision2020'"
> <vision2020@moscow.com>
>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:03 PM
> Subject: Re: City
Council
>
>
> > Visionaries-
> >
> >
It is my understanding, and perhaps Councilman Guyer can confirm this,
>
that
> > the Moscow City Council will discuss several proposed nudity
ordinances on
> > July 1st, at their next Monday night council
meeting. Peg Hamlett, the
> only
> > councilmember likely
to speak against such an ordinance, will not be in
> town
> >
for the July 1st meeting (the Council had advance notification of her
>
> attendance at an annual conference). In addition, both Mayor
Marshall
> > Comstock and City Supervisor Gary Riedner are out of
town this week (at
> the
> > Association of Idaho Cities
conference), which makes it difficult for
> > citizens to have
conversations with either of them about this issue.
> >
> >
I understand that three versions of an ordinance are being prepared
for
> the
> > City Council to consider. I do not know the
specific language in each
> > version, but a rough summary
follows:
> >
> > #1 It would be unlawful for women to expose
their nipples and areolas,
> > except for breastfeeding
mothers.
> >
> > #2 The same as the first version, except
that it would also be unlawful to
> > show the contours of the
nipples and areolas. (This means the "pasties"
> > used to
cover the areolas would have to be made out of a stiffer
>
material.)
> >
> > #3 It would be unlawful for women to
expose their nipples, areolas or the
> > "southern hemisphere" of the
breast, again except for breastfeeding
> mothers.
> >
>
> As a former City Council member who spent way too much time
discussing
> such
> > an ordinance the first time around, I
implore City Council not to jump
> into
> > a knee-jerk
ordinance, but rather to step back and consider the longer
>
term
> > picture of Moscow life.
> >
> > We've
already dealt with the nudity ordinance. It hasn't presented a
>
> problem until the convertible carwash opened up. If the current
issue is
> > that a business is profiting from sexual exploitation of
female bodies,
> why
> > not look at model ordinances around
the country that focus on "Sexually
> > Oriented Businesses"
(otherwise known as SOB ordinances). It seems that
> > this is
an area that would make more sense for the future of Moscow.
>
>
> > Pam Palmer
> >
>
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