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["Dale Courtney" <dmcourtn@moscow.com>]

Tom,

 

Have you ever even read his complete work?

 

In the first place, you may wish Darwin had said otherwise; but he was defending the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life.

 

Secondly, your committing an argumentum ad hominem abusive logical fallacy will not win an argument. But it's a nice attempt at a diversion from fact of what Darwin was saying.

 

Dale

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Hansen

To: vision2020@moscow.com

Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 6:46 PM

Subject: RE:

I believe that Darwinists believe in one simple concept:  Survival of the Fittest.  It is my firmest belief that Darwin DID NOT mean to exclude any races based on the pigment of their skin.  Simply put, "If you can withstand the many slings and arrows that life tosses your way, you will endure.  If not, you will not."

 

To interpret this any other way sprongly reflects the racial prejudices of the interpreter.

 

Take care,

 

Tom Hansen

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Courtney [mailto:dmcourtn@moscow.com]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 3:20 AM
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: Re:

It's well known that Darwin's Origin of Species evolved from an irredeemably racist presupposition by Darwin.

 

The original full title of the work is On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life.

 

Now, that's one title you won't learn about in our government schools!  :)

Dale

----- Original Message -----

From: Douglas

To: vision2020@moscow.com

Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:12 PM

Dear visionaries,

In response to Melynda's post, two thoughts.

How about this? Would it be appropriate for a government school to teach that one form of early Darwinism taught that blacks were one of the intermediate steps between primates and full humans? Of course I don't think that -- all of us are descended from Adam and Eve. But I am curious -- if we all evolved out of the primordial goo, then was the process of natural selection obligated to observe the strictures of the Civil Rights Act of 1964? Any biological reason why every branch of the humanoid fauna has to progress at exactly the same rate? What I am trying to get up the nerve to ask (given the Chinese fire drill earlier about coming out in the classroom) is this: is there any scientific reason anyone can give me to show that Darwinism is not necessarily, irredeemably racist?

And in response to the invitation, "knock yourself out," I appreciate that very much. Just what we have been doing, and it is taking its toll. In part it works so well because tax-funded schools can't really understand how competition works.

P.S. is my use of "Chinese fire drill" illegal yet? If so, I repent in dust and ashes, and promise to report to my Purity of Thought Council meeting first thing.

Keeping the fun in fundamentalist,

Douglas Wilson