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> vision2020-digest Digest                                Volume 02 : Issue 7
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> Today's Topics:
>   Re: Bush Tax Cut Moratorium in Flori  [ bill london <london@moscow.com> ]
>   wildlife initiative                   [ bill london <london@moscow.com> ]
>   Wildlife initiative                   [ Bob Hassoldt <id4ster@yahoo.com> ]
>   contact information                   [ "Young" <youngg@uidaho.edu> ]
>   Re: Wildlife initiative               [ bill london <london@moscow.com> ]
>   Common Sense and Profiling            [ PhilCooper@webtv.net (P C) ]
>   "Green" Bush                          [ PhilCooper@webtv.net (P C) ]
>   Re: Common Sense and Profiling        [ Bob Hoffmann <escape@alt-escape.com ]
> 
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: Bush Tax Cut Moratorium in Florida
> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 17:50:20 -0800
> From: bill london <london@moscow.com>
> To: Tom Trail <ttrail@moscow.com>
> CC: vision2020@whale.fsr.net
> 
> T-
> As the Idaho legislative session prepares for kickoff, I am very pleased to
> read what I hope will be a continuing series of reports to V2020.  Thanks for
> keeping us informed--and asking for our input.
> BL
> 
> Tom Trail wrote:
> 
> > >Visionaries:   I think that it most interesting at a time everyone says
> > >that we can't delay the tax
> > cuts that we passed last session to take a look at what Gov. Jeb Bush and
> > the Florida Legislature
> > did to protect education   Gov. Bush and Florida Legislators chose to bite
> > the bullet and delay
> > the tax cuts until the economy approves in order to protect education.
> > The bill received widespread
> > bipartisan support and solid Republican support.
> >
> > I intend to support a similar delay of the tax cuts in the upcoming
> > legislative session and will
> > share this article with all legislators.   Sometimes elected officials do
> > show common sense and
> > a bit of courage.
> >
> > I can be reached in Boise via e mail--ttrail@moscow.com or
> > ttrail@house.state.id.us
> > Fax--208-334-5397
> > My desk phone is 208-332-1202
> > Mailing address:  Rep. Tom Trail, Idaho State Legislature, State Capitol
> > Building, P.O. Box 83720, Boise, ID. 83720-0038
> >
> > Rep. Tom Trail
> >
> > >here's the web page:
> > >http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/120601/met_8017332.html
> > >
> > >the text is below:
> > >
> > >House votes to delay tax cut
> > >Lawmakers work on budget shortfall
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >By Jim Saunders
> > >Times-Union staff writer
> > >
> > >TALLAHASSEE -- House Republicans celebrated last spring when they pushed
> > >through a tax cut for thousands of Florida investors.
> > >
> > >But yesterday, with the state slashing money from education and health
> > >programs because of a stumbling economy, dozens of those same Republicans
> > >had to backtrack.
> > >
> > >The House voted overwhelmingly to postpone an upcoming $128 million cut in
> > >the intangibles tax on investments, clearing the way for lawmakers to
> > >finish closing a $1.3 billion budget shortfall today. Republicans said
> > >they agreed to put off the tax cut for 18 months because of financial woes
> > >that worsened after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
> > >
> > >"Nine-11 made a difference in Florida, and to ignore that is absolutely
> > >missing the point," said House Majority Leader Jerry Maygarden,
> > >R-Pensacola.
> > >
> > >Delaying the scheduled Jan. 1 cut in the intangibles tax was a key part of
> > >a budget deal that House and Senate leaders reached during the weekend.
> > >That deal calls for closing the shortfall by cutting about $1 million from
> > >state programs, collecting the $128 million in intangibles taxes and
> > >dipping into the state's reserves.
> > >
> > >Hitting home
> > >All House members from Northeast Florida voted to support delaying a $128
> > >million cut in the intangibles tax on investments. The area's senators
> > >also supported the measure Monday.
> > >
> > >
> > >The shortfall is in the $20.3 billion general revenue fund, which pays for
> > >many of the day-to-day operations of government. That has forced lawmakers
> > >to make heavy cuts in school spending, which makes up more than half of
> > >the budget.
> > >
> > >Both chambers are slated today to approve the budget cuts, ending a
> > >special session that started last week. Senators on Monday agreed to
> > >postpone the intangibles tax cut, which now will go to Gov. Jeb Bush for
> > >his expected signature.
> > >
> > >Bush and the Republican-controlled Legislature have spent the past three
> > >years cutting the intangibles tax and have made it a bedrock issue for the
> > >party. The tax is collected on investments such as stocks and bonds, which
> > >Republicans argue is an unreasonable tax on savings.
> > >
> > >But Democrats have long argued that cutting the tax helps only the state's
> > >wealthiest residents. Some Democrats have called for even more
> > >far-reaching steps to solve the state's budget problems, such as rolling
> > >back intangibles-tax cuts that were made in 1999 and 2000.
> > >
> > >"All we are doing this week is putting our finger in the dike, and I say,
> > >'Watch out for the flood,''' said House Minority Leader Lois Frankel,
> > >D-West Palm Beach.
> > >
> > >To pay the intangibles tax, individuals must have at least $80,000 in
> > >assets such as stocks, bonds and notes. Currently, individuals receive a
> > >tax exemption on the first $20,000 of assets. An individual with $80,000
> > >in assets would pay $60 a year in taxes.
> > >
> > >Under the law that passed in the spring, the exemption would have
> > >increased from $20,000 to $250,000 on Jan. 1, allowing thousands of
> > >investors to avoid paying any intangibles taxes. Similarly, married
> > >couples would have seen their exemptions go from $40,000 to $500,000.
> > >
> > >The House voted 102-17 yesterday to postpone the tax cut, with the
> > >dissenters including Speaker Tom Feeney, R-Oviedo, and Speaker-designate
> > >Johnnie Byrd, R-Plant City. All 10 House members from Northeast Florida
> > >voted for the postponement.
> > >
> > >Feeney has long argued that moving forward with the tax cut would help
> > >stimulate the state's economy. But with Bush's lobbying, most Republican
> > >lawmakers decided to go along with postponing the tax to prevent further
> > >cuts in education spending or further raids on the state's reserves.
> > >
> > >Staff writer Jim Saunders can be reached at (850) 224-7515 or via e-mail
> > >at ftutal@flpress.com.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Original Message:
> > >-----------------
> > >From: Tom Trail ttrail@moscow.com
> > >Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 16:24:26 -0700
> > >To: trail@infotrail.com
> > >Subject: Bush Tax Cut Moratorium in Florida
> > >
> > >
> > >Steve--I remember faintly something about the budget crunch in Florida and
> > >that Jed Bush
> > >who had advocated a tax cut program and it was passed came back once the
> > >big deficit was
> > >known and put a moratorium on his tax cut program.
> > >
> > >Can you get me any details on this.  Thanks.
> > >
> > >Dad
> > >
> > >Dr. Tom Trail
> > >International Trails
> > >1375 Mt. View Rd.
> > >Moscow, Id. 83843
> > >Tel:  (208) 882-6077
> > >Fax:  (208) 882-0896
> > >e mail ttrail@moscow.com
> > >
> > >
> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >mail2web - Check your email from the web at
> > >http://mail2web.com/ .
> > >
> >
> > Dr. Tom Trail
> > International Trails
> > 1375 Mt. View Rd.
> > Moscow, Id. 83843
> > Tel:  (208) 882-6077
> > Fax:  (208) 882-0896
> > e mail ttrail@moscow.com
> 
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: wildlife initiative
> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 17:57:15 -0800
> From: bill london <london@moscow.com>
> To: Tom Trail <ttrail@moscow.com>
> CC: Vision2020 <vision2020@moscow.com>
> 
> T-
> Thank you for your willingness to go out front on the tax rescinding issue.
> While I find myself agreeing with you much of the time, a report from today's
> Tribune worries me.  You are cited as a future sponsor of what is termed an
> "anti-animal rights" law, making it impossible for citizens to change Idaho's
> fish/game regulations.
>     I really hope you rethink this position.  Consider the politicized nature
> of the Idaho Fish and Game Department.  This is not the model professional
> organization it used to be.  The department is dominated now by those who do
> not take a professional habitat based view of wildlife, value game way above
> other species, and are lax on enforcement of basic rules.
>     As this situation develops, it may well become necessary for the citizens
> to step in and control the department.
>     Please do not throw huge roadblocks in the way.
>     BL
> 
> Tom Trail wrote:
> 
> > >Visionaries:   I think that it most interesting at a time everyone says
> > >that we can't delay the tax
> > cuts that we passed last session to take a look at what Gov. Jeb Bush and
> > the Florida Legislature
> > did to protect education   Gov. Bush and Florida Legislators chose to bite
> > the bullet and delay
> > the tax cuts until the economy approves in order to protect education.
> > The bill received widespread
> > bipartisan support and solid Republican support.
> >
> > I intend to support a similar delay of the tax cuts in the upcoming
> > legislative session and will
> > share this article with all legislators.   Sometimes elected officials do
> > show common sense and
> > a bit of courage.
> >
> > I can be reached in Boise via e mail--ttrail@moscow.com or
> > ttrail@house.state.id.us
> > Fax--208-334-5397
> > My desk phone is 208-332-1202
> > Mailing address:  Rep. Tom Trail, Idaho State Legislature, State Capitol
> > Building, P.O. Box 83720, Boise, ID. 83720-0038
> >
> > Rep. Tom Trail
> >
> > >here's the web page:
> > >http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/120601/met_8017332.html
> > >
> > >the text is below:
> > >
> > >House votes to delay tax cut
> > >Lawmakers work on budget shortfall
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >By Jim Saunders
> > >Times-Union staff writer
> > >
> > >TALLAHASSEE -- House Republicans celebrated last spring when they pushed
> > >through a tax cut for thousands of Florida investors.
> > >
> > >But yesterday, with the state slashing money from education and health
> > >programs because of a stumbling economy, dozens of those same Republicans
> > >had to backtrack.
> > >
> > >The House voted overwhelmingly to postpone an upcoming $128 million cut in
> > >the intangibles tax on investments, clearing the way for lawmakers to
> > >finish closing a $1.3 billion budget shortfall today. Republicans said
> > >they agreed to put off the tax cut for 18 months because of financial woes
> > >that worsened after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
> > >
> > >"Nine-11 made a difference in Florida, and to ignore that is absolutely
> > >missing the point," said House Majority Leader Jerry Maygarden,
> > >R-Pensacola.
> > >
> > >Delaying the scheduled Jan. 1 cut in the intangibles tax was a key part of
> > >a budget deal that House and Senate leaders reached during the weekend.
> > >That deal calls for closing the shortfall by cutting about $1 million from
> > >state programs, collecting the $128 million in intangibles taxes and
> > >dipping into the state's reserves.
> > >
> > >Hitting home
> > >All House members from Northeast Florida voted to support delaying a $128
> > >million cut in the intangibles tax on investments. The area's senators
> > >also supported the measure Monday.
> > >
> > >
> > >The shortfall is in the $20.3 billion general revenue fund, which pays for
> > >many of the day-to-day operations of government. That has forced lawmakers
> > >to make heavy cuts in school spending, which makes up more than half of
> > >the budget.
> > >
> > >Both chambers are slated today to approve the budget cuts, ending a
> > >special session that started last week. Senators on Monday agreed to
> > >postpone the intangibles tax cut, which now will go to Gov. Jeb Bush for
> > >his expected signature.
> > >
> > >Bush and the Republican-controlled Legislature have spent the past three
> > >years cutting the intangibles tax and have made it a bedrock issue for the
> > >party. The tax is collected on investments such as stocks and bonds, which
> > >Republicans argue is an unreasonable tax on savings.
> > >
> > >But Democrats have long argued that cutting the tax helps only the state's
> > >wealthiest residents. Some Democrats have called for even more
> > >far-reaching steps to solve the state's budget problems, such as rolling
> > >back intangibles-tax cuts that were made in 1999 and 2000.
> > >
> > >"All we are doing this week is putting our finger in the dike, and I say,
> > >'Watch out for the flood,''' said House Minority Leader Lois Frankel,
> > >D-West Palm Beach.
> > >
> > >To pay the intangibles tax, individuals must have at least $80,000 in
> > >assets such as stocks, bonds and notes. Currently, individuals receive a
> > >tax exemption on the first $20,000 of assets. An individual with $80,000
> > >in assets would pay $60 a year in taxes.
> > >
> > >Under the law that passed in the spring, the exemption would have
> > >increased from $20,000 to $250,000 on Jan. 1, allowing thousands of
> > >investors to avoid paying any intangibles taxes. Similarly, married
> > >couples would have seen their exemptions go from $40,000 to $500,000.
> > >
> > >The House voted 102-17 yesterday to postpone the tax cut, with the
> > >dissenters including Speaker Tom Feeney, R-Oviedo, and Speaker-designate
> > >Johnnie Byrd, R-Plant City. All 10 House members from Northeast Florida
> > >voted for the postponement.
> > >
> > >Feeney has long argued that moving forward with the tax cut would help
> > >stimulate the state's economy. But with Bush's lobbying, most Republican
> > >lawmakers decided to go along with postponing the tax to prevent further
> > >cuts in education spending or further raids on the state's reserves.
> > >
> > >Staff writer Jim Saunders can be reached at (850) 224-7515 or via e-mail
> > >at ftutal@flpress.com.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Original Message:
> > >-----------------
> > >From: Tom Trail ttrail@moscow.com
> > >Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 16:24:26 -0700
> > >To: trail@infotrail.com
> > >Subject: Bush Tax Cut Moratorium in Florida
> > >
> > >
> > >Steve--I remember faintly something about the budget crunch in Florida and
> > >that Jed Bush
> > >who had advocated a tax cut program and it was passed came back once the
> > >big deficit was
> > >known and put a moratorium on his tax cut program.
> > >
> > >Can you get me any details on this.  Thanks.
> > >
> > >Dad
> > >
> > >Dr. Tom Trail
> > >International Trails
> > >1375 Mt. View Rd.
> > >Moscow, Id. 83843
> > >Tel:  (208) 882-6077
> > >Fax:  (208) 882-0896
> > >e mail ttrail@moscow.com
> > >
> > >
> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >mail2web - Check your email from the web at
> > >http://mail2web.com/ .
> > >
> >
> > Dr. Tom Trail
> > International Trails
> > 1375 Mt. View Rd.
> > Moscow, Id. 83843
> > Tel:  (208) 882-6077
> > Fax:  (208) 882-0896
> > e mail ttrail@moscow.com
> 
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Wildlife initiative
> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 21:19:24 -0800 (PST)
> From: Bob Hassoldt <id4ster@yahoo.com>
> To: IT is <vision2020@moscow.com>
> 
>       When it comes to citizen control of wildlife
> decisions I would have to support Tom Trail's decision
> in a big way. Whenever the citizens have taken the
> wildlife management decisions away from the
> professionals disaster is usually quick to follow.
> Uninformed citizens making wildlife decisions based on
> total ignorance and emotions are by far the worst
> thing that can happen to wildlife, both game and
> non-game, and their habitats. No Mr. London, while I
> have a great respect for your writing ability, I
> wouldn't trust you any further than I could throw the
> 1912 center when it came to you making a decision on
> what is best for the wildlife of Idaho.
> Bob Hassoldt
> 
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>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: contact information
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 07:11:24 -0800
> From: "Young" <youngg@uidaho.edu>
> To: "bill london" <london@moscow.com>
> CC: <vision2020@whale.fsr.net>
> 
> Bill and all of Vision 2020,
> 
> Just a note to convey my contact locations while in Boise.  I love hearing
> from constituents in District 5.
> 
> Desk phone  208-332-1218 or office  332-1059.  Both have voice mail.
> fax 208-334-5397
> e-mail  youngg@uidaho.edu or gyoung@house.state.id.us
> 
> Mailing address is Rep Gary Young, Idaho State Legislature
> State Capitol Building
> P.O. Box 83720,
> Boise, ID 83720-0038
> 
> Please stay informed and involved.
> 
> "For the Future"
> 
> Gary Young, Representative, District 5
> 
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: Wildlife initiative
> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 08:40:18 -0800
> From: bill london <london@moscow.com>
> To: Bob Hassoldt <id4ster@yahoo.com>, Vision2020 <vision2020@moscow.com>
> 
> Bob:
>     Your goal of professionally-controlled wildlife management decisions
> in Idaho is a noble and sensible one.  As you noted in your message:
> "Whenever the citizens have taken the wildlife management decisions away
> from the professionals disaster is usually quick to follow."
>     I agree with you.
>     The problem is that the citizens (politically-organized hunting
> groups, etc) have ALREADY taken wildlife decision-making in Idaho away
> from the professionals at the Idaho Fish and Game Department and
> substituted their own irrational, emotional, kill-everything-but-the-elk
> philosophy for real wildlife management.
>     We may well need the statewide democratic initiative process to get
> things back on track some day.  That's why I think Tom Trail is making a
> mistake backing this kind of bill.
> BL
> 
> Bob Hassoldt wrote:
> 
> >       When it comes to citizen control of wildlife
> > decisions I would have to support Tom Trail's decision
> > in a big way. Whenever the citizens have taken the
> > wildlife management decisions away from the
> > professionals disaster is usually quick to follow.
> > Uninformed citizens making wildlife decisions based on
> > total ignorance and emotions are by far the worst
> > thing that can happen to wildlife, both game and
> > non-game, and their habitats. No Mr. London, while I
> > have a great respect for your writing ability, I
> > wouldn't trust you any further than I could throw the
> > 1912 center when it came to you making a decision on
> > what is best for the wildlife of Idaho.
> > Bob Hassoldt
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail!
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> 
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Common Sense and Profiling
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:22:13 -0600 (CST)
> From: PhilCooper@webtv.net (P C)
> To: vision2020@moscow.com
> 
> Let's all join hands, shall weeeee?
> 
> "All Points Bulletin: Be on the lookout four young Asian males who just
> robbed First National Bank and murdered a security guard.' In response,
> police immediately stop and question four elderly black women leaving a
> church service. 'Wait!' you say, 'That defies common sense.'
> Unfortunately, common sense is very UN-common in these days of political
> correctness. If the police were to stop young Asian males in such a
> situation, it would make sense! Of course the young men would try to
> claim racial profiling (especially if they were guilty). But that
> wouldn't change the fact that eye-witnesses saw Asians commit the crime.
> ". . . People, this is insanity. 100% of the nineteen 9/11 hijackers and
> suicide bombers were young to middle aged Middle Eastern males. 100% of
> those convicted of the earlier World Trade Center bombing were young to
> middle aged Middle Eastern males. Since it is impossible to search
> everyone, simple logic decrees you spend your limited resources
> searching those who exhibit the highest probability of being the actual
> threat to society. This is not racial profiling. This is common sense."
> - Tom Barrett, ConservativeTruth.org, 1/6/02
> 
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: "Green" Bush
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:30:55 -0600 (CST)
> From: PhilCooper@webtv.net (P C)
> To: vision2020@moscow.com
> 
>  "Imagine, for a moment, that Al Gore was now president. Now stop
> shaking for a minute and think hard. If Gore had built a presidential
> ranch that was one story high, got all its electricity from the sun, and
> was described by the New York Times as a 'model of the yuppie modern
> ranch,' don't you think it would become an emblem of his presidency? So
> why hasn't it happened to Bush?
> "Here's the Times: 'The first lady, Laura Bush, has overseen the
> planting of native Texas grasses. The house is environmentally correct,
> with a passive solar design, geothermal cooling and heating, a cistern
> to catch rainwater and purification tanks and filters so that water from
> the house can be recycled for use in irrigation.'
> "Does Bush get any credit for this? Do his environmental critics - who
> have yet to find a substantive difference between Bush's and Clinton's
> environmental policies - acknowledge that Bush is an actual, living,
> breathing environmentalist? While Gore talked a good game, does he know
> anything about tending to thousands of acres of actual brush land the
> way W does? I point this out just to show how lazy the press is."
> - Columnist Andrew Sullivan
> 
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: Common Sense and Profiling
> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 18:19:47 -0800
> From: Bob Hoffmann <escape@alt-escape.com>
> To: vision2020@moscow.com
> 
> At 07:22 PM 1/7/2002 -0600, P C wrote:
> >". . . People, this is insanity. 100% of the nineteen 9/11 hijackers and
> >suicide bombers were young to middle aged Middle Eastern males. 100% of
> >those convicted of the earlier World Trade Center bombing were young to
> >middle aged Middle Eastern males. Since it is impossible to search
> >everyone, simple logic decrees you spend your limited resources
> >searching those who exhibit the highest probability of being the actual
> >threat to society. This is not racial profiling. This is common sense."
> >- Tom Barrett, ConservativeTruth.org, 1/6/02
> 
> There have been numerous security breaches at airports, including
> individuals taking loaded firearms on commercial jetliners, since
> 9/11.  None of these individuals was a hijacker; presumably none was a
> Middle Eastern male.  However, if one of these individuals had been a
> hijacker, we can all imagine a very horrific ending to the
> situation.  Caused by a non-Middle Eastern male.  A young male, not of
> Middle Eastern origin, was left unattended by a Cessna, and flew it into
> the side of a sky-scraper in Florida.  An armed male of Middle Eastern
> extraction was prevented from boarding a commercial airliner recently--he
> was a member of the Secret Service, duly authorized to carry side arms on
> airplanes.
> 
> This is racial profiling. This is not common sense.
> 
> Bob Hoffmann
> 846 Mabelle St.
> Moscow, ID  83843
> 
> Tel: 208 883-0642