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RE: Not rain nor snow nor Saturday...
So true... as I have been an advocate for personal responsibility for a long
time, I never respond to junk mail as a matter of principle. I can imagine
most people are not so idealistic as I am. I don't mind the email
solicitations as much since they have a much smaller environmental impact
but the paper and energy waste is mind-boggling!
This brings up another discussion that we have had on this list... we as
consumers need to be more responsible and make our buying decisions with
more care. We should consider our purchase not only as a vote for one
business but also as a vote against another! This is the way it is. If we
support one, it is at the expense of another. We have to weigh the long-term
effects of your decisions. We can no longer look and care after our own
short-term benefit because that is always detrimental to all of our
long-term well-being!
"Your brother in arms"
Shahab...
-----Original Message-----
From: LuJane - Eagle [mailto:lujane@lataheagle.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:38 AM
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: Re: Not rain nor snow nor Saturday...
As long as people respond to spam (whether it be e-mail or snail mail) it
will continue. It gets results. You (and I) may hate it and wish it to stop,
but I'll lay bets all of us respond to SOMETHING sometime. Statistics show
that if you do a mailing you should expect about 2-5% (in certain things
10%) return on it... that doesn't sound like much but if you are mailing
10's of thousands, it gives a good return. I've used it from time to time in
my business and gotten a good return. I've used telephone solicitation and
gotten good returns. If it didn't work, businesses wouldn't use it. WE
govern what is used and what isn't. Even though I dislike the mounds of mail
and telephone solicitations I get (and I cuss and rant as everyone else)...
I also contribute to it. It is very difficult to start a business without
it. You have to get the message out that you are here and doing business and
it is effective.
I suppose that contributes little to this discussion but it is, after all,
an observation that WE control what is used and what isn't and if WE (as a
population) would not respond to these things they would stop... die a
natural death.
LJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Shahab Mesbah <meteor2@moscow.com>
To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 11:48 AM
Subject: RE: Not rain nor snow nor Saturday...
> Dear friends,
>
> This is a great point and one that brings me to another issue... why do we
> have so much mail?! If you are at all like me you throw half of your mail
> directly in the recycle bin. Just like the "free paper" issue the
> advertisers are cluttering the system with junk mail. This mail not only
> wastes paper but also energy and human resources to get to us. When are we
> going to demand an appropriate level of responsibility for advertising?
> Whether an unwanted newspaper, an unwanted mail, an unwanted phone call or
> an unwanted email it is intrusion in my property... why can't we stop
> this... it should be illegal. We waste so much of resources in this way.
As
> evident in today's world we do not have unlimited resources. We know more
> than the earthlings of a generation ago! We have witnessed the degradation
> of our ecosystem. We have witnessed the degradation of our society. Why
> can't we stop the waste? Who pays for it? We do! We pay for the rising
> energy costs, postal costs, all of them. When a company wastes money... we
> pay for it in rising cost of goods. When it is all said and done... we
flip
> the bill either directly or through our taxes so we should be eliminating
> these wastes as much as possible. It is to our interest as residents on
this
> planet!
>
> "Your brother in arms"
>
> Shahab...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Evan & Nancy Holmes [mailto:ncmholmes@moscow.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 9:17 AM
> To: vision2020@moscow.com
> Subject: Not rain nor snow nor Saturday...
>
> To: The Distinguished Committee For The Advancement Of Immediate Remedy
>
> Discontinuing Saturday mail delivery wouldn't eliminate all the costs
> associated with it - the burden on carriers to deliver proportionately
more
> mail on each of the other days may require the shortening of routes and
> hiring more personnel. Mondays may become especially difficult to handle.
> Also, nobody has mentioned the benefit of having mail picked up while
> mail is delivered. This is a great service and if it is no longer done on
> Saturdays there may be a statistically significant increase in the number
> of individual trips (usually by auto) made to the Post Office or other
drop
> off point...
>
> The only way I can figure to really save money on Saturday deliveries is
to
> assign the task to some income-challenged cross-dressers who could drive
> down the middle of each street tossing bundled mail left and right out
> their car windows ... or has this already been tried?
>
> Your Brother-In-Tank-Top,
>
> Evan
>
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