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Re: GEO-CART> Wired, but?



Hi Rick: You know fellow everybody has had a bad day or two and I have had mine here at the ole U myself.  There are a lot of things wrong here but there is a lot of right going on just as well.  Sure I can complain about petty campus politics (Poly=many Tics=blood suckers) but it is only a fact of life that we can work around.  When you start walking in GeoSam's wheel house you better be aware that he is a much respected well thought of person who he himself has had to deal with peer group pressure on himself for some of the stands he has taken on our behalf.  This is America and this is the thirteenth most wired University out of the 1,300 polled and I bet if you took your energy and devoted it to a positive approach for constructively trying to change some of the wrongs you have observed you could find that we might make it all the way to number one sometime in the future.  God Bless you my friend and have a better day tomorrow.
With all due respect;
 
Wolfgang M. Schwartzenweintraub
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Lovel
To: geo-cart@uidaho.edu
Cc: philco@micron.net
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 6:10 PM
Subject: GEO-CART> Wired, but?

yea, we're wired, too bad the computers are junk and the network administration is a  freakin joke. If all the components ( infrastructure, hardware, software, admin) were there I wouldn't be so sarcastic. Being "wired" is just good intended press for the UI Well it beats having one of our FRAT houses burning down or some drunk falling out of a window. (read: politics). Unfortunately  having  a new backbone and other wiring infrastructure does not transfer into usability and functionality for the end-user, the students. It will eventually! Oh but meanwhile, the president and other "functionaries"  at the U  can certainly crow about "how wired we are". Of course, our esteemed Senator Larry Craig also jumps on the bandwagon. Why, because it makes us all sound so "cutting edge" and "progressive" We certainly are!. BAH!
 I have heard all this bragging for the last year while the "improvements" were being implemented, what a bunch of BS. The students can attest to what really goes on behind the scenes. So soory I am feeling so onery today Moscow Sam, but you know as well as I that when labs such as "the advanced technology teaching lab" (snicker) does not even have basic Multi-media tools enabled (quickTime, WMT, ECT) there is a problem. (actually they are there, but the average student does not realize that they have to go in and "intialize" them). The  last Arc View install was a mess with symbols missing in action, and it took weeks and weeks for "them" to figure out how to get  MS Explorer working with their NT install (granted its MS). And what is this faky-ass zip utility that can't even handle GZip files? DID they save money by dumping WINZIP?
 
    I could not begin to even try to count how many times in the past I have packed up my stuff, fought for parking, or rode by bike to school, only to  find inoperable computers We had a class in GeoSams course on Web Resources and Design that had an inoperative Internet browser working.  Two of us went to the computer center with our discs and shown them that our 'MARQUEE' pages would not run in that lab.  The next day it was fixed .and /or network. Kind of hard to make forward progress to say the least.
So, I gave up doing any serious work at school over 2 years ago.I hope you will find a way to return and continue on with you studies. But what about those less fortunate students that don't have the luxury of a home computer?
These examples I have shown may seem like nit-picking, but tell that to the student trying to maintain a GPA and who is working on a deadline. And these examples are only the tip of the iceberg. I took my student loan money and ate rice and beans to own my own computer.
Even with this "multi-million dollar" upgrade to the backbone, good luck logging in the monday after a long weekend or heaven forbid during pre-mid term and pre finals week.>>>>>>>>>>meanwhile the frats have some serious networked Quake and Duke Nukem games going on 24/7. I know they are jacked we're wired.
 
Sorry about the diatribe, but this is how it really is. We have a great system, but they don't pay enough to retain people competent enough to make it work properly. I do believe our computer people are very well qualified or President Bob Hoover would have replace them. Its like buying a Ferarri or a Lotus, but only being able to afford to hire Gomer Pyle to work on it. But oooh, thats Ok, cuz the fiber and Cat 5 cables are in place, so WE ARE WIRED. whatever.>>>>>  Overall, I am very pleased with the quality of my education at the UI,  and I  very am grateful to have been able to work with the people I have within my field of study. But the computer situation has been the bane of my existence for the last 4 years.
Thanks, I feel better now. People do listen Rick take it to President Bob Hoovers office and he will talk to you.  You might be able to be part of the solution.
                                        Rick
 Wolf
 
----- Original Message -----
From: SMW Scripter [aka MoscowSam] <MoscowSam@moscow.com>
To: geo-cart <geo-cart@uidaho.edu>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 12:16 PM
Subject: GEO-CART> Fw: [Vandal] 100 Most Wired Colleges

> de GeoSam ...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phil Corless <philco@micron.net>
> To: <vandal@uidaho.edu>
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 11:36 AM
> Subject: [Vandal] 100 Most Wired Colleges
>
>
> >
> > The May issue of Yahoo Internet Life just hit my mailbox,
> > with a special report on the 100 Most Wired Colleges in
> > the country.
> >
> > Out of 1,300 schools surveyed, the University of Idaho
> > landed at Number 13. 
> >
> > Congratulations to the computer folks at the UI!
>



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