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Re: COLUMBINE AND GOD IN THE SCHOOLS?
Boy are you a big bag wind!
----- Original Message -----
From: "John A. Teeter" <johnt@fsr.com>
To: "Wolfgang Schwartzenweintraub" <wolfman@turbonet.com>;
<jaycron@turbonet.com>; "Don Coombs" <dcoombs@uidaho.edu>; "Cliff Fallon"
<fallon@eecs.wsu.edu>
Cc: <vision2020@moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 10:33 PM
Subject: RE: COLUMBINE AND GOD IN THE SCHOOLS?
> interesting discussion. leads me to think:
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> a) it might keep more californians from moving up here
> b) the entrance requirments to UofI Grad programs might need to be
reviewed
> (in the language arts area:)
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> as to the topic of the exchange....mostly noise I'm afraid:(
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> johnt
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wolfgang Schwartzenweintraub [mailto:wolfman@turbonet.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 7:45 PM
> To: jaycron@turbonet.com; Don Coombs; Cliff Fallon
> Cc: vision2020@moscow.com
> Subject: Re: COLUMBINE AND GOD IN THE SCHOOLS?
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> Thank you for your assessment of my needs Mr. Cronin. There are those out
> there who written me today to thank me for taking the position I did take.
> If you found my statements to Mr. Coombs offensive then I can tell you
that
> much of what he said was offensive to myself and some others. I do admit
> there has been more negative feedback than positive. Yours is negative
feed
> back but well taken.
> His question was not a question but an indictment of religion is public
> schools. His comments went beyond that he was attacking some values.that
I
> hold precious. Where were you --------living in Canada? Hey very sheik.
> "What's up with that? Hey that makes you hip. Well the entire thing is we
> have gotten completely off the thing of prayer in public schools.
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> "I found the point that God had been returned to the public schools
because
> students prayed during the Columbine massacre --
> I found that a little tacky.
> There has always been prayer in the schools, as the joke goes, before
> exams. Coercing people into praying your prayer to your God in a public
> school doesn't seem a great idea to me.
> But I'll bet you're happy with the U.S. Congress -- rejecting the
> appointment of someone as chaplain because he was a Jew. Apparently the
> chaplain is always a Protestant."
>
> Lets face it with this type of rhetoric Don Coombs is as big a jerk as I
was
> to answer him the way I did. Comments by him are above. Here are a group
> of people mourning the loss of their children. Don't you think we could
be
> a little more sensitive to help them through their period of mourning?
No!
> according to Mr. Mouth. He found them to be "TACKY". Maybe I will check
in
> a anger management but maybe we could send Mr. Coombs sensitivity training
> as a measure of self- improvement. His comments about Jews is strident
> religious prejudice. Where does this fit into the discussion to make any
> sense. Foolish, Foolish comments. With all due respect;
>
> Wolfgang Schwartzenweintraub
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> From: "John Cronin" <jaycron@turbonet.com>
> To: "Wolfgang Schwartzenweintraub" <wolfman@turbonet.com>; "Don Coombs"
> <dcoombs@uidaho.edu>; "Cliff Fallon" <fallon@eecs.wsu.edu>
> Cc: <vision2020@moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 7:02 PM
> Subject: Re: COLUMBINE AND GOD IN THE SCHOOLS?
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> > Mr. Schwartzenweintraub,
> >
> > I am struggling here to see how Mr. Coombs offended you and the God you
> > sincerely believe in by asking a simple question. What is your
> > answer?....Whose God? Please help me understand why Mr. Coombs deserved
> a
> > personal threat and a juvenile- like insult around his manhood. What is
> up
> > with that? Good grief! Could you tell us specifically what role you
played
> > in defending our rights to free speech and how that is relevant to this
> > discussion? Let's see..somebody needs anger management
counseling....Mmmm.
> >
> > John Cronin
> > ----------
> > > From: Wolfgang Schwartzenweintraub <wolfman@turbonet.com>
> > > To: Don Coombs <dcoombs@uidaho.edu>; Cliff Fallon
<fallon@eecs.wsu.edu>
> > > Cc: vision2020@moscow.com
> > > Subject: Re: COLUMBINE AND GOD IN THE SCHOOLS?
> > > Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 8:19 AM
> > >
> > > Coombs your entitled to your opinion that is what a lot of people in
> this
> > > world would say myself included. I do not agree with your attitude
nor
> > do I
> > > respect your views or small talk about the Lord, God, Jesus Christ.
If
> > you
> > > said those things to me in the middle of a wheat field and not on the
> > > University of Idaho campus I would take you apart limb by limb. You
> > aren't
> > > man enough to back yourself up. It is little pucks like you that some
> of
> > us
> > > defended many years ago in a far away place. We defended your right
to
> > make
> > > us sick with your rhetoric. You have the right to say what you want
> about
> > > some of us and our Lord. But, don't flatter yourself to think you are
> > clear
> > > of me on this one. If prayer brings peace to some people why should
you
> > > care. What is your alternative Don? Would you have us slaughter a
> sheep
> > > and toss the blood all over the wall of Columbine high school in the
> name
> > of
> > > Satan? Would you have every body explain things to you in terms only
> you
> > > appreciate. What the dickens does taxes have to do with all of this
any
> > > way. Are you one of those wheat farmer that live around here on the
> > biggest
> > > welfare program in existence. Are you tired of buying Cadillacs for
> them
> > > with subsidized money? What really has your shorts tied in a square
> knot
> > > Don? You seem like a candidate for management anger consoling. With
all
> > due
> > > respect;
> > >
> > > Wolfgang M. Schwartzenweitraub
> > >
> > > ********************************************************
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Don Coombs" <dcoombs@uidaho.edu>
> > > To: "Cliff Fallon" <fallon@eecs.wsu.edu>
> > > Cc: <vision2020@moscow.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:54 PM
> > > Subject: Re: COLUMBINE AND GOD IN THE SCHOOLS?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Whose God? If you are open to having all the faiths represented
> > (including
> > > > some I myself consider weird but would never think of identifying
> > > > here) then I guess I see no flaw in your argument--
> > > >
> > > > Unless you were thinking of not allowing atheist and agnostic point
of
> > > > views to be represented, even though atheists and agnostics pay
taxes.
> > > >
> > > > I found the point that God had been returned to the public schools
> > because
> > > > students prayed during the Columbine massacre --
> > > >
> > > > I found that a little tacky.
> > > >
> > > > There has always been prayer in the schools, as the joke goes,
before
> > > > exams. Coercing people into praying your prayer to your God in a
> public
> > > > school doesn't seem a great idea to me.
> > > >
> > > > But I'll bet you're happy with the U.S. Congress -- rejecting the
> > > > appointment of someone as chaplain because he was a Jew. Apparently
> the
> > > > chaplain is always a Protestant.
> > > >
> > > > Don H. Coombs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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