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Re: FSR, censors, free speech WAS: Re: proposed changes to list



Amen, brother!  Roger that!  Etc.

:-)  Briana


Jeff Griffin  wrote:
>
> OK, let's put this in perspective, shall we?
> 
> FSR owns the computers and associated equipment on which the 
> Vision2020 mailing list resides.  They have the right to do whatever 
> they want with that equipment, including removing materials which, by 
> some interpretations, would make them liable for propagating 
> slanderous or harmful speech.  
> 
> Most service providers ask their clients to agree not to use the 
> service to mail or publish materials which are slanderous, harmful, 
> or pornographic; generally, they reserve the right to remove those 
> materials and/or discontinue service to the offending individuals.  
> 
> FSR is, IMHO, fully within its rights to remove materials from the 
> Vision 2020 archives which it reasonably believes may put their 
> business at risk.  
> 
> 
> > Date:          Wed, 03 Jun 1998 12:11:18 -0700
> > To:            Dale Goble <gobled@uidaho.edu>
> > From:          Dave Willard <dwillard@turbonet.com>
> > Subject:       Re: proposed changes to list
> > Cc:            vision2020@moscow.com
> 
> > Dale Goble may have written:
> > >
> > >pardon me?
> > >
> > >how does requiring people to identify themselves cause censorship?
> > >
> > 
> > I was talking about clipping the archives, which has already been
done by FSR.
> > 
> > >From: John Teeter <johnt@fsr.com>
> > >Reply-To: "johnt@fsr.com" <johnt@fsr.com>
> > >To: "'Bill London'" <london@wsu.edu>,
> > >        "vision2020@moscow.com"
> > >	 <vision2020@moscow.com>
> > >Cc: "bmoore@wanda.fsr.com" <bmoore@wanda.fsr.com>
> > >Subject: RE: proposed changes to list
> > >Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:22:44 -0700
> > >Organization: First Step Research
> > >
> > >I'd like to add the "why" we (at fsr) took the action of removing
the
> > referenced
> > >posts from the v2020 archives, without waiting for all the dust
to settle.  
> > >
> > 
> > I call it blatant censorship. 
> > 
> > Mayme Trumble said it best:
> > 
> > >What is noise to one is music to another.
> > 
> > Peace
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > 
> 
> Jeff Griffin  jeffg@turbonet.com
> Affirmative Technologies  http://www.affirmnet.com/ 
> Affirmative Technologies provides complete solutions to the 
> electronic publishing needs of small businesses and organizations.  
> 
> 

==
:-) Briana



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